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Old 09-01-2014, 12:30 AM   #9701
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I've never really checked but what does the number he's put in the NFL have to do with how our defensive line play. I will say I NEVER saw him field a unit like I saw Thursday night. The Defense has ALWAYS been what keeps us in games. Discussion of Lawwin never pushing Clowney..... I heard they had a little issue when Clowney got here but older players (Ingram) helped him understand you will listen to Lawwing. I've never heard any other talk about it. Lawwing produces talent with coaching. You can have all the talent you want and lose if they're not coached up. I'll say this is what bothers me most about our recruiting........ We tend to go after the way underrated guys or the diamonds in the rough........ There's generally a reason they are underrated. I realize sometimes you get a great one out of the bunch but then again you're stuck with the rest of the bunch.
we've had a top 15 recruiting classes every year the last 4-5 and 2015 may be top 5.....so it's not like our coaches are not getting good talent as your post suggests....
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Yes this young man is still innocent atm. But should we tell the coaches what to do with his scholly so they don't mess it up? I kid I kid
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we've had a top 15 recruiting classes every year the last 4-5 and 2015 may be top 5.....so it's not like our coaches are not getting good talent as your post suggests....
Lol.... Then you tell me why we got smacked in the mouth by a freshman QB in our own house for the record of yards allowed? Recruiting rankings are fun and all but it's a joke. Sheer numbers can rank a class higher than a smaller one with better players. We may have good talent but I sure didn't see anything other than Skai Moore and maybe Gurley Thursday night. I honestly don't know that I've ever seen as bad a defense as I saw. Either our coaches just weren't prepared, our talent is subpar, Texas A&M is a great team (NOT) or there's no superstar talent to bail out the team and coaches. You tell me, why?
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Lol.... Then you tell me why we got smacked in the mouth by a freshman QB in our own house for the record of yards allowed? Recruiting rankings are fun and all but it's a joke. Sheer numbers can rank a class higher than a smaller one with better players. We may have good talent but I sure didn't see anything other than Skai Moore and maybe Gurley Thursday night. I honestly don't know that I've ever seen as bad a defense as I saw. Either our coaches just weren't prepared, our talent is subpar, Texas A&M is a great team (NOT) or there's no superstar talent to bail out the team and coaches. You tell me, why?
atm is very talented, our talent is subpar at present because recent recruiting classes failed to get the guys we needed for this season or they too many left early and it caught up with us. But I must say that our coaches WERE NOT prepared 1 lick for that game and it showed.
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This is a great post. I've been saying this for a couple of years. Finishing 16th in the nation is all fine, well, and good, until you look up and realize that's only good enough for 8th or 9th in the conference. That caught up to us Thursday night in the ugliest of ways.
I don't know how many times I have to say this but we have won 33 games the last 3 years and 42 games the last 4 years....those wins rank us in the top 5.....every year the last 4, we have finished the season ranked higher than the previous season. I think you have totally unrealistic expectations and you love nothing more than say as many negative things as you can about the coaches, recruits and players......and the other clown you responded to, he's not worthy of a response. I think you're a fan, but it's sad to see someone as negative as you.
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Lol.... Then you tell me why we got smacked in the mouth by a freshman QB in our own house for the record of yards allowed? Recruiting rankings are fun and all but it's a joke. Sheer numbers can rank a class higher than a smaller one with better players. We may have good talent but I sure didn't see anything other than Skai Moore and maybe Gurley Thursday night. I honestly don't know that I've ever seen as bad a defense as I saw. Either our coaches just weren't prepared, our talent is subpar, Texas A&M is a great team (NOT) or there's no superstar talent to bail out the team and coaches. You tell me, why?
he was a soph QB, not a freshman....they had superior players than us at most positions. we had a bad scheme trying to stop them....we had a lot of new/young faces trying to play a scheme they didn't understand nor did they fit.....they were crisp and precise in their execution and play calling.....some of the loss was on the coaches, some on the players....I think you'll see an improvement going forward.....with more effort and aggression. I hope we dump the 3-4......it's not going to work for us this year.

By the way, that same team scored 42 on Alabama last year....much more than any other team they faced....and I think they have better players on both offense and defense than they did last year. They have had a top 5 recruiting class the last couple of years and it shows....recruiting ranking does matter.
what else you got....
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Yeah atm is on an instant rise almost over night in football terms but we have to not focus on what they are doing and keep our heads on straight and it will work out for us.
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he was a soph QB, not a freshman....they had superior players than us at most positions. we had a bad scheme trying to stop them....we had a lot of new/young faces trying to play a scheme they didn't understand nor did they fit.....they were crisp and precise in their execution and play calling.....some of the loss was on the coaches, some on the players....I think you'll see an improvement going forward.....with more effort and aggression. I hope we dump the 3-4......it's not going to work for us this year.

By the way, that same team scored 42 on Alabama last year....much more than any other team they faced....and I think they have better players on both offense and defense than they did last year. They have had a top 5 recruiting class the last couple of years and it shows....recruiting ranking does matter.
what else you got....
1. Freshman/sophomore..... Should it matter?
2. I don't think we had a scheme.... You can't be behind receivers by 5 yards on every play. The whole middle of the field was wide open for the RB's. I'm shocked it wasn't worse. It was pick your poison. We couldn't defend either.
3. That same team didn't score 42 on Bama. There are 3 first rounders in the pros that were on that team. Johny Football and Mike Evans were great college players.
4. TAMU also played many freshmen.
5. The last 3 years we beat plenty of teams that had and stockpiled talent the recruiting ranking wouldn't have us on the same page with. I'm all about recruiting known talent. What bothers me is the "projects" and under the radar guys that never seem to come out from under the radar. Our success depend on the talent in the state of SC. We got Clowney, Gilmore, Holloman, Swearinger, Alshon, Bruce Ellington, Devin Taylor, Kelcey Quarells and so on to come here from instate and we won. I understand this state doesn't have the numbers of the other states around us but our roster is full of out of state guys that can't beat out freshmen at corner...... I'm not a genius but there's no superstar talent on this team. Absolutely none. I have a problem with that. Like Spurrier said we had very little on the preseason SEC teams. None on the first team. That's uncalled for. I hope we get better but if you think this team will match the last three years you'll be disappointed. The defensive coaching isn't there. They sure can recruit but Play......Na.
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1. Freshman/sophomore..... Should it matter?
2. I don't think we had a scheme.... You can't be behind receivers by 5 yards on every play. The whole middle of the field was wide open for the RB's. I'm shocked it wasn't worse. It was pick your poison. We couldn't defend either.
3. That same team didn't score 42 on Bama. There are 3 first rounders in the pros that were on that team. Johny Football and Mike Evans were great college players.
4. TAMU also played many freshmen.
5. The last 3 years we beat plenty of teams that had and stockpiled talent the recruiting ranking wouldn't have us on the same page with. I'm all about recruiting known talent. What bothers me is the "projects" and under the radar guys that never seem to come out from under the radar. Our success depend on the talent in the state of SC. We got Clowney, Gilmore, Holloman, Swearinger, Alshon, Bruce Ellington, Devin Taylor, Kelcey Quarells and so on to come here from instate and we won. I understand this state doesn't have the numbers of the other states around us but our roster is full of out of state guys that can't beat out freshmen at corner...... I'm not a genius but there's no superstar talent on this team. Absolutely none. I have a problem with that. Like Spurrier said we had very little on the preseason SEC teams. None on the first team. That's uncalled for. I hope we get better but if you think this team will match the last three years you'll be disappointed. The defensive coaching isn't there. They sure can recruit but Play......Na.
That's what bothers me. We always hear how our coaches are great evaluators and get so many "under the radar guys." I hate to be negative but it's starting to look like the "under the radar guys" are average guys
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After three seasons where we won 11 games, because of one loss, we haven't been recruiting well enough? After three seasons where we won 11 games, because of one loss, our coaches are no good?

I sincerely hope people use a larger sample size in their everyday life to make decisions than they're showing here.
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After three seasons where we won 11 games, because of one loss, we haven't been recruiting well enough? After three seasons where we won 11 games, because of one loss, our coaches are no good?

I sincerely hope people use a larger sample size in their everyday life to make decisions than they're showing here.
It's not the loss. It's the obvious that says the future looks like crap unless things change. With the last few years players gone on to the NFL you'd think there would have been some players who could match up and play in the SEC. We've got high school corners and other freshmen playing. That's a recipe for disaster. I'm not all doom and gloom, I'm also not a sunshine pumper. The reality is UGA will embarrass us if we're not really improved in 2 weeks. We finished #4 in the country last year but that was a different team. The defense I saw Thursday would have a hard time playing Byrnes or Gaffney.
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Gaffney is my hometown but let's be serious. The defense took it on the chin Thursday, but they have nowhere to go but up. Our offense has put up some putrid performances the past few years also. Some forget the 2012 game at The Swamp.
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Watch the game again. See who missed tackles. It was mostly linebackers. We seemed stronger to me in 4-3, and definitely got what little pressure we got except on about 3 LB blitzes (pressures). The DB's missed some tackles, but definitely didn't attack. The linebackers we have are capable of playing better and making some better hits and tackles. Maybe the 3-4 is messing up the rhythm they finally developed at the end of last season. Of course, we miss Clowney and Quarles, but I think the LB's have to make the biggest step forward this week.
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It's not the loss. It's the obvious that says the future looks like crap unless things change. With the last few years players gone on to the NFL you'd think there would have been some players who could match up and play in the SEC. We've got high school corners and other freshmen playing. That's a recipe for disaster. I'm not all doom and gloom, I'm also not a sunshine pumper. The reality is UGA will embarrass us if we're not really improved in 2 weeks. We finished #4 in the country last year but that was a different team. The defense I saw Thursday would have a hard time playing Byrnes or Gaffney.
2015 class will be the best one since SOS has been here....and filling needs at DE, DB and OL. I know that nobody wants to hear, wait till next year's class gets here. But remember this, the road to the top is not a straight line.
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