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Old 09-03-2014, 02:27 PM   #61
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Default Re: Why won't Spurrier implement the spread offense here?

Spurrier's offense is more like what players will encounter in the NFL. Thus, using this system helps us to recruit players who want to play at the next level.
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I'm a huge Spurrier fan, but I don't understand when he makes comments like he did in his presser yesterday, that you can't use four running backs in a game. Why not? We are not Georgia, but they did it the other night with impressive results. Just wish sometimes we would give it a shot.
Marshall didn't get much PT. So, you need another example.
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Default Re: Why won't Spurrier implement the spread offense here?

[quote=JDStud6;4247814]I remember a time when we ran WR screen after WR screen, when we had big WRs. Now it seems like we never do it. aTm was pretty successful against us with it. aTm has superior skill position talent, so they like to get the ball out FAST to a skill guy and make them do work. And since we couldn't tackle, it worked great against us.

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Marshall didn't get much PT. So, you need another example.
Marshall didn't get much, but he got some. Some and none are different. Is that a good enough example for you?
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SOS has already made adjustments to his offense to adapt to the zone read......his offense is fine......Malzahn's offense is more run oriented, it's not a spread.
u r correct, yet not.. anymore. Ss did employ the inside zone read for quite some time highly effectively. Garcia/Shaw + Lattimore. His initial version was the QB aproached the los where QB either gave it to rb (majority) or qb kept and ran (significant minority).

upon the injury to lattimore we continued to use it in name however it ws at that point for all practical purposes we ceased the QB keeper aspect. It became essencially an inside handoff, QB step out of the way and hope someone follows him. From that point forward nearly all QB runs were either designated or broken pass play escapes. you could count on your hands and feet ( maybe don't need feet) the # of times we ran the inside zone read with an optional QB keeper in which the QB actually kept it.
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Default Re: Why won't Spurrier implement the spread offense here?

We do run the spread offense lol.. That started about around the time we got Lattimore and Shawn Elliott

just not hurry up like A&M, Auburn, or Oregon.
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Default Re: Why won't Spurrier implement the spread offense here?

I've never understood why we haven't done a split back formation. Maybe Lattimore wouldn't of gotten hurt if we split the carries between him and Wilds or whoever. Plus the defense would have to key on more than one guy which we could use to our advantage.
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Marshall didn't get much PT. So, you need another example.
I don't think you will find many examples where 4 or even 3, most often even two Rbs split carries exactly evenly. typically there is hierachy and so yes #4 would have few carries in comparison to #1. that even without the injury, certainly with.

i see it much like when, for ex., a Qb completes 30 whatever passes to 10 or so recievers. similair to what happened with TAM vs us. QB didn't complete 3 or so passes to each guy. he certainly had primary targets for ea particular play and he likely has personal favorite targest overall with out regard to who is primary on any specific route. Still when faced with action he looked, he saw and he attempted to get the ball to an open man with out regard to who that man was thus distributing the ball widely.
#1 he accomplished his primary goal, somebody catch the dumb ball. #2 in doing so he made it ever more difficult for the D to concentrate on any specific reciever be it the primary or the QBs fav. If there was a guy running a route he ws established as a legit target and had to be defended accordingly.

The RB rotatation has a similiar productive and sceme affect. If the back is in the game, if he is in a uni, he is a target, a threat to be handed the ball. Maintains fresh legs, presents differing running styles, allows staff to recognize if a back, not #1, is in a groove that day or brings a tact to the mix that may be employed facing this or that D set AND drives lockeroom unity and chemistry. Whole lot easier to feel like one is justifiably a part of the team if he is playing and contributing to the game day efforts of the team.
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Marshall didn't get much, but he got some. Some and none are different. Is that a good enough example for you?
No. It doesn't support your assertion. You need another example. I guess there aren't any.
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No. It doesn't support your assertion. You need another example. I guess there aren't any.
Well you are obviously much too intelligent for me.
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No. It doesn't support your assertion. You need another example. I guess there aren't any.
Ok, so how about (true freshman) RB Nick Chubb? (true freshman) RB Sony Michel? (true freshman) WR Isaih McKenzie? (true freshman) LB Lorenzo Carter? And those are just the names that were highlighted on TV. Pretty sure there were probably more. Obviously not just talking RBs here in this example, just fresh players getting rotated in on a regular basis, being given an opportunity to shine.

Doesn't matter how many (or how little) carries a RB with fresh legs gets against a completely exhausted D. The RB will win every time, and UGA proved that against Clemson. LSU did a great job with this in 2012 with four stud RBs. It just works. Alabama does it all the time with at least two RBs per game, sometimes three. Usually works out pretty well for them, I'd say.

Either way...don't go down by 17 and and not be able to stop the opponent's offense, and you won't really have to worry about it.
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I remember a time when we ran WR screen after WR screen, when we had big WRs. Now it seems like we never do it. aTm was pretty successful against us with it. aTm has superior skill position talent, so they like to get the ball out FAST to a skill guy and make them do work. And since we couldn't tackle, it worked great against us.

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Sumlin also used several bubble screens early to get his freshman QB in a groove which also settled the crowed down but most importantly it set up the fake bubble screen to hit the quick slant. Our DB's kept seeing the bubble screen and finally bit on the fake. We got burned bad. Really, just great play calling on OC's part of A&M.
I agree. The A&M's OC called one hell of a game. We were confused the whole night and couldn't guess what they were doing all night. Kudos to him!
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I hope Steve Spurrier NEVER implements the "Spread" offense, and never
gives in to a bunch of knee jerk reaction fans who think the entire program
needs over hauling after one bad loss. Spurrier has coached against AND
BEATEN teams that use the "Spread / HUNH" offense.

Everyone wants to jump on what's "trendy" or fashionable because everyone
else is doing it, or they think we're going to get crushed in the wave of
those that are doing it. Y'all need to chill and let our coaches do what they
get paid to do, and that is run THEIR PROGRAM the way THEY WANT TO
RUN IT and make corrections / adjustments as needed.

33-6 in the last three years ....we lose one game and now everyone wants
coaches fired, and OH, BY THE WAY, "we need to do a complete overhaul of
our system, make our players learn it in a few weeks, and we'll be as good
as the rest of the teams that have decided to go with what's trending in
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I hope Steve Spurrier NEVER implements the "Spread" offense, and never
gives in to a bunch of knee jerk reaction fans who think the entire program
needs over hauling after one bad loss. Spurrier has coached against AND
BEATEN teams that use the "Spread / HUNH" offense.

Everyone wants to jump on what's "trendy" or fashionable because everyone
else is doing it, or they think we're going to get crushed in the wave of
those that are doing it. Y'all need to chill and let our coaches do what they
get paid to do, and that is run THEIR PROGRAM the way THEY WANT TO
RUN IT and make corrections / adjustments as needed.

33-6 in the last three years ....we lose one game and now everyone wants
coaches fired, and OH, BY THE WAY, "we need to do a complete overhaul of
our system, make our players learn it in a few weeks, and we'll be as good
as the rest of the teams that have decided to go with what's trending in
college football right now".
When you're getting taken out behind the woodshed, that's what half time is for...

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Saban, Miles, Richt and Fisher don't.

actually Richt has implemented it into his offense. we still run the I as a bread and butter, but we do a lot of 3 and 4 WR sets and a fair amount of HUNH. Mason likes to go HUNH more than Murray did.

if you go back and watch the Clemson game we ran HUNH for the first 3 quarters and then slowed it down in the 4th after getting a lead.

Bobo has done a nice job of mixing the offensive styles together.
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because spurrier can't get the f*cking plays called in time running a traditional offense let alone the spread/hurry up.
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actually Richt has implemented it into his offense. we still run the I as a bread and butter, but we do a lot of 3 and 4 WR sets and a fair amount of HUNH. Mason likes to go HUNH more than Murray did.

if you go back and watch the Clemson game we ran HUNH for the first 3 quarters and then slowed it down in the 4th after getting a lead.

Bobo has done a nice job of mixing the offensive styles together.
Never thought I'd give Bobo credit for anything, but it's hard to argue with that after the Clemson game. Great piece of coaching on both sides of the ball.

Now, let's see if it was just all left out on the field for just that ONE game :)
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