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Old 09-04-2014, 11:48 PM   #41
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The HBC is just fine. You have plenty of head coaches who do the duties of Offensive coordinator. Examples, Bobby Petrino, David Shaw, Mike McCarthy, Jim Harbaugh. He's fine.
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No, but what about a full time defensive coordinator? And just getting anybody who cares about recruiting would be great.
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Old 09-05-2014, 05:19 AM   #43
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Feels like we are the only team in all of CFB that doesn't have a full time offensive coordinator. Spurrier is good, but at some point he does more than his job requires. Is it time to get an offensive coordinator?

Edit** I understand that Shawn Elliot and Steve Spurrier Jr. are Co-Offensive Coordinators, but I am talking about getting a real full time offensive coordinator.
Elliott and Jr. are full time. Plus we have SOS. I'm not getting it.
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Maybe SOS will evaluate that our offense is never ready to go the first game. 33 wins in 3 years thanks to heroic play by Connor. The game is changing with the fast pace of games. I think a offensive coordinator working with SOS would benefit the team in all other areas. Not looking to run off SOS, but facts are facts.
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The HBC is just fine. You have plenty of head coaches who do the duties of Offensive coordinator. Examples, Bobby Petrino, David Shaw, Mike McCarthy, Jim Harbaugh. He's fine.
he is still I would like to see an OC. SS being HC would still dictate the play calling to the extent he so chooses. Much like his relenting and bringing in a QB coach didn't mean he ceased to have contact with the QBs an OC would not remove him from decision making on O.
It would allow him to script the first xxx # of plays for ea half and have the OC execute his vision. He could allow the OC to call plays with in what ever scope he determined apropriate and still he can make any specific situational play call he chooses. No different than any other HC.
This would free him up to view the game as a whole, affect the D and get a feel for what the opposing D is doing so as to be better in tune with the flow of the game and better feel for what the O would face once we got the ball.

having an OC would benifitt us both from having a second perspective to offer to SS and moreover relieve SS of some of the detail dirty work of running the O play to play. I think the team as a whole would greatly benifitt from his attention and presence
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having an OC would benifitt us both from having a second perspective to offer to SS and moreover relieve SS of some of the detail dirty work of running the O play to play. I think the team as a whole would greatly benifitt from his attention and presence
Do we not already have that with Elliott, Mangus, and Junior?

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Maybe SOS will evaluate that our offense is never ready to go the first game. 33 wins in 3 years thanks to heroic play by Connor. The game is changing with the fast pace of games. I think a offensive coordinator working with SOS would benefit the team in all other areas. Not looking to run off SOS, but facts are facts.
If this is a problem, I would think it could be caused by numerous factors. For example, do you think the other coaches comply with the NCAA rules on practice time during the pre season. Spurrier follows the rules. Maybe he is just disadvantaged because he doesn't cheat. That is just an example.

Secondly, our first game schedule has involved pretty good teams over the same period. Maybe the other teams defenses are good. Defenses are usually ahead of offenses early in the season. Maybe that is the true factor.

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It's way past time. We need a younger, fresher mindset to help Steve tinker with some new options on offense. Steve can still be the main strategist, but we need some younger blood.

33 wins in 3 years and we need to mess with the "old guy"?? Really!
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I think our defense has been ranked in the top 20 defenses for the last 3 years. Guess where our offense has ranked the last 3 years. I will wait on your reply.
Rankings don't mean squat...it's all about winning! 33-6, how's dem stats!
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Hbc. Has the offense wrapped up. We gotta stop some dang body
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How many Ute games like last year we gotta have before people question the HBC?
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How many Ute games like last year we gotta have before people question the HBC?
So who do you suggest we get? Who is a better Head Coach or Offensive Coordinator?

I am pretty please with the way things are going having HBC at the helm. Our program is the best it has ever been. Do you disagree? When was our program better?

I'll hang up now a pretend to listen.
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So who do you suggest we get? Who is a better Head Coach or Offensive Coordinator?

I am pretty please with the way things are going having HBC at the helm. Our program is the best it has ever been. Do you disagree? When was our program better?

I'll hang up now a pretend to listen.
Do I think Spurrier is a great head of the program Yes. Do I think that his stubbornness makes him being our leader a double edged sword? Hell Yes. I haven't looked into replacements or stand ins and don't really care to it's not my job.
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Do I think Spurrier is a great head of the program Yes. Do I think that his stubbornness makes him being our leader a double edged sword? Hell Yes. I haven't looked into replacements or stand ins and don't really care to it's not my job.
It's not my job is the statement of what's wrong with this country now. It's not my job are what lazy people that have no ambition or aspiration, to be better and are satisfied being pathetic.

Well if your questioning his ability I would assume that you would be smart enough to know if there is anyone out there that is better before making statements like you have. Fly by the seat of your pants and becoming trigger happy is exactly what this program needs right now. I just glad that the people in charge and is their job don't feel the same as you. The past 3 years the Gamecocks have played in the Outback and Capitol One bowl and won all 3and we have won 11 games each on of those years.

I guess you would like to see the HBC fired and we go back to winning 5 or 6 games a year sweating if we can even get a bowl bid.

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It's not my job is the statement of what's wrong with this country now. It's not my job are what lazy people that have no ambition or aspiration, to be better and are satisfied being pathetic.

Well if your questioning his ability I would assume that you would be smart enough to know if there is anyone out there that is better before making statements like you have. Fly by the seat of your pants and becoming trigger happy is exactly what this program needs right now. I just glad that the people in charge and is their job don't feel the same as you. The past 3 years the Gamecocks have played in the Outback and Capitol One bowl and won all 3and we have won 11 games each on of those years.

I guess you would like to see the HBC fired and we go back to winning 5 or 6 games a year sweating if we can even get a bowl bid.

How does me stating a fact that it's not my job to make coaching decisions have anything to do with what's wrong with the country you want me to paint my issues with Our coaches stubbornness?

1. He doesn't play people that should be played.
2. He thinks it's the 80's and wants to use 1 Running back for 30+ carries.
3. He doesn't utilize our strengths.
4. Connor Shaw is the reason we won most of our games the last few years doing things that the coaching staff didn't want him or prefer him doing.
5. HBC has tunnel vision and it's clearly his way or the highway.
6. We have a completely different offense this year yes in part due to QB ability but we have a couple guys that can run our offense and should be given a legit shot. Dylan is too inconsistent and was only given the job because he's been around.
7. Claimed he was going to make changes when we were exposed last year for a piss poor showing. All coaches stayed put.
8. He cost us the East last year with bull**** play calling and the time out debacle at Ute.

Flame away but I agree with you that 11 wins is great but what do we have to show for it 3 more bowl wins? Again that's good but it's past time we won another division and Conference. Our competition is getting stronger and stronger and you are in denial if you don't feel like we should have had a title in the last few years but we don't. I credit him for our rise but we have had all the talent that the other big guys have had and not 1 title of any sort to show for it.
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It's not my job is the statement of what's wrong with this country now. It's not my job are what lazy people that have no ambition or aspiration, to be better and are satisfied being pathetic.

Well if your questioning his ability I would assume that you would be smart enough to know if there is anyone out there that is better before making statements like you have. Fly by the seat of your pants and becoming trigger happy is exactly what this program needs right now. I just glad that the people in charge and is their job don't feel the same as you. The past 3 years the Gamecocks have played in the Outback and Capitol One bowl and won all 3and we have won 11 games each on of those years.

I guess you would like to see the HBC fired and we go back to winning 5 or 6 games a year sweating if we can even get a bowl bid.

Also those defensive changes he was supposed to make last year will be the reason we will be a 5-8 win team this year if we are lucky and sweating a bowl bid as you called it. I hope I am wrong but it feels like we have peaked under the HBC. There will always be a up and coming coach and established coaches that want to coach a program like ours there is no shortage I am glad you are happy with not getting over the hump.
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Gotta go for the night will try and check your response tomorrow night. Will be busy during the day and busy with the game tomorrow night.
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No it isn't but I can understand the question after all of the defensive coordinator questions that have been raised this week.

Football is a team sport and it takes both sides of the ball to win games. Sometimes the Offense is better sometimes the Defense is better but it's all a wash in the end.

We've been successful at both in recent years so if it ain't broke, don fix it. We will have the occasional ass whipping, like everybody else.
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No. But if so, bring in Philip Montgomery from Baylor and name him head coach in waiting. Because that always works out well.
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Do I think Spurrier is a great head of the program Yes. Do I think that his stubbornness makes him being our leader a double edged sword? Hell Yes. I haven't looked into replacements or stand ins and don't really care to it's not my job.
So you just like to talk crap, how do you think a OC would have helped or could help this program? We have several offensive minds on the staff that assist SOS from Mangus to Elliot's zone read, now please tell us who and how they could have helped our DB stop the WR from catching a almost impossible ball at ut?
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