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Old 04-21-2017, 02:49 PM   #901
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How about the point is we are struggling to put a DL class together.
How about its only April 21st? I think we'll be fine with the amount of time between now and signing day. Worrying about the class at this point in time is ridiculous.
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How about its only April 21st? I think we'll be fine with the amount of time between now and signing day. Worrying about the class at this point in time is ridiculous.
Exactly! Some just get beyond ridiculous.
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Old 04-21-2017, 04:06 PM   #903
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Exactly! Some just get beyond ridiculous.
I'm not worried. Just stating an observation. Muschamp should be the one worried.
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:19 PM   #904
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I'm not worried. Just stating an observation. Muschamp should be the one worried.
Not even worth stating an observation this early. The time for stating observations is December/January when the class has come together for the most part, not now. The time for worrying is NSD.
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Old 04-21-2017, 05:32 PM   #905
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Not even worth stating an observation this early. The time for stating observations is December/January when the class has come together for the most part, not now. The time for worrying is NSD.
only time for talking about the class is when things are going well?
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only time for talking about the class is when things are going well?
Only time for talking about the DL not looking good is when we have a clearer picture in a few months. I don't see you bringing up DBs, LBs, Ks, Ps, QBs, RBs, or TEs which have a combined 0 commitments to this point. Anyone negative about a recruiting class in April obviously hasn't followed recruiting long enough or wants to shit on everything for the hell of it.
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Only time for talking about the DL not looking good is when we have a clearer picture in a few months. I don't see you bringing up DBs, LBs, Ks, Ps, QBs, RBs, or TEs which have a combined 0 commitments to this point. Anyone negative about a recruiting class in April obviously hasn't followed recruiting long enough or wants to shit on everything for the hell of it.
obviously, thanks for clarifying. For the record, We are in better shape at those other positions. Muschamp's DL recruiting for 2018 has been one disappointment after another. We have no real credible interested prospects at DE other then several JUCO's and grad transfers. If we want a Patchwork DL, then this DL class is shaping up well. Also how am I shitting on everything? You yourself just wrote that I do not post about those positions. Maybe you are just in denial.
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obviously, thanks for clarifying. For the record, We are in better shape at those other positions. Muschamp's DL recruiting for 2018 has been one disappointment after another. We have no real credible interested prospects at DE other then several JUCO's and grad transfers. If we want a Patchwork DL, then this DL class is shaping up well. Also how am I shitting on everything? You yourself just wrote that I do not post about those positions. Maybe you are just in denial.
You keep pointing out the DL class in the month of April, you have no idea how this class is going to wrap up for the DL. In December/January you'll at least have a bit of an idea. Let's see where we are sitting in a few months before throwing dirt on the DL class like you seem to be doing. And frankly you may want to start to change your views on JUCOs, we need all the immediate help we can get and JUCOs provide that more than freshmen.
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I agree that Ironfan seems to be a bit pessimistic with his posts, some are just drawn that way. I dont think its time for panic, but I am concerned. Some yall need to stop with the "its only April". The trend had shifted to guys committing earlier and earlier. Big targets are getting in and helping recruit other big targets...just look at XT.
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I agree that Ironfan seems to be a bit pessimistic with his posts, some are just drawn that way. I dont think its time for panic, but I am concerned. Some yall need to stop with the "its only April". The trend had shifted to guys committing earlier and earlier. Big targets are getting in and helping recruit other big targets...just look at XT.
I don't think there is a question our DL class won't be as good as we hoped, losing the #1 or #2 rated recruit, depending on the service, is impossible to replace. That doesn't mean the class is going to hell.
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You keep pointing out the DL class in the month of April, you have no idea how this class is going to wrap up for the DL. In December/January you'll at least have a bit of an idea. Let's see where we are sitting in a few months before throwing dirt on the DL class like you seem to be doing. And frankly you may want to start to change your views on JUCOs, we need all the immediate help we can get and JUCOs provide that more than freshmen.
The best 3 DL in the nation are already committed and its April. Sorry, its only April excuse not gonna cut it for me. I am very concerned about DL because it is absolutely the building block of the entire defense. You cant miss on DL even for one year.
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I agree that Ironfan seems to be a bit pessimistic with his posts, some are just drawn that way. I dont think its time for panic, but I am concerned. Some yall need to stop with the "its only April". The trend had shifted to guys committing earlier and earlier. Big targets are getting in and helping recruit other big targets...just look at XT.
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You tend not to flirt with the line just jump over it
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The best 3 DL in the nation are already committed and its April. Sorry, its only April excuse not gonna cut it for me. I am very concerned about DL because it is absolutely the building block of the entire defense. You cant miss on DL even for one year.
The 3 best DL are committed elsewhere, does that mean this is going to be a crap DL class? Also let's see how many of those top 3 DL do two things: 1. Stay ranked a top 3 DL in the country and 2. Stay committed to the school they are currently at. There are going to be late bloomers, disappointing senior seasons, ect to totally alter who is ranked where so to look at the top 3 DL being committed as a reason to worry in April just ignores how recruiting works.
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kinda like the fine line between troll and ass, both can fit, yet, one is a lifestyle choice the other personality. You make the call. Iron fan kinda like as in iron from birmingham as in ALABAMA?
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The best 3 DL in the nation are already committed and its April. Sorry, its only April excuse not gonna cut it for me. I am very concerned about DL because it is absolutely the building block of the entire defense. You cant miss on DL even for one year.
Are any enrolled yet at another school? Signed a LOI?

We will recruit better when we are no longer competing against the reigning national champs. Which we won't be after October (maybe September) when Clemson is eliminated from consideration for the 2017 title. Dabo is pushing hard early because he will not have as much to sell after the seasons starts.
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The best 3 DL in the nation are already committed and its April. Sorry, its only April excuse not gonna cut it for me. I am very concerned about DL because it is absolutely the building block of the entire defense. You cant miss on DL even for one year.
It's April. Like I said before, there are thousands of DL that will be available for the 2018 class. Lots of evaluation time left, I'm sure out of those thousands of guys available we can get 4-6 of them, or however many we plan on taking.
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I'm not worried. Just stating an observation. Muschamp should be the one worried.
A month ago, there were a number of posters on here worried because we didn't have any commits. Now we have 4 with that number likely to double in the next 2 months. Enjoy the process.
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Looking at the 2015 and 2016 Opening, J. Williams held his own against a lot of really good receivers. I don't think he starts but I think we will see him early on for PR and maybe starting at nickel 2-3 games in.
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You keep pointing out the DL class in the month of April, you have no idea how this class is going to wrap up for the DL. In December/January you'll at least have a bit of an idea. Let's see where we are sitting in a few months before throwing dirt on the DL class like you seem to be doing. And frankly you may want to start to change your views on JUCOs, we need all the immediate help we can get and JUCOs provide that more than freshmen.
JUCOs can be great. Our great JUCO DB King was probably the MVP of our Tennessee win.

AND....if it wasnt for a JUCO guy we would've been 2010 SEC Champions. But....Blinn JUCO had Cam Newton to Auburn.
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