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Old 06-19-2017, 12:41 AM   #1121
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He's basically flipped from being recruited to taking up a role as recruiter. Going after guys like XT, Wynn, Tindall, ect.
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Old 06-19-2017, 12:55 AM   #1122
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Clemson fans are already salty about his commitment on social media. The hell do they care? They're set at QB for the foreseeable future.
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Old 06-19-2017, 01:04 AM   #1123
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Clemson fans are already salty about his commitment on social media. The hell do they care? They're set at QB for the foreseeable future.
Probably just people that dot follow recruiting much. Clemson didn't want him as a QB and as a result they weren't even in the mix.
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:40 AM   #1124
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Fort Dorchester QB Dakereon Joyner, the state’s top quarterback in the 2018 class and member of the Elite 11 national quarterback competition, used the backdrop of Father’s Day to publicly announce his intention to play his college career for Will Muschamp and USC. Joyner revealed his decision on Father’s Day to honor his late father and made the announcement at the school’s auditorium in front of a gathering of family, friends and media.
Joyner narrowed his choices to USC and NC State, with some thought about Virginia Tech, and notified the schools of his plans in May. He said he actually told Muschamp in February to “hold my spot, I think that’s where I want to go, hold my spot, and that’s what he did.” Joyner is a dual-threat quarterback. Last season he passed for 3642 yards and 44 touchdowns while rushing for 1089 yards and 12 touchdowns.
Muschamp and quarterbacks coach Kurt Roper made Joyner a priority practically from the moment they arrived in Columbia and Joyner was happy to reward their dedication to him.
“Since day one he (Muschamp) always said I was that guy,” Joyner said. “It feels good that you are that number one guy on the radar. I’m thankful for Coach Muschamp, I love him to death. He’s always supported me and I’m glad he’s going to be my future coach.”
The Gamecocks are set a quarterback with Jake Bentley going into his sophomore season, so Joyner may have to serve one or two seasons as his understudy. But, even with Bentley or another quarterback in place, he believes there will be a place for him in the offense early on.
“They definitely needed a dual-threat guy,” Joyner said. “Jake Bentley does an incredible job but at some places where they shut down the run game and the running back or shut down the pass game, a dual-threat quarterback plays a big part. He’s kind of the eraser. If a play breaks down, he can make it happen.”
Joyner also drew offers from Clemson, Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, State, Oregon, Notre Dame and others. Some schools, like Clemson, wouldn’t commit to his desire to only be viewed as a quarterback. His athletic skills led some schools to see him more as a safety. But Joyner never wavered in his stance as a quarterback only prospect, not just for college but for playing on Sunday’s as well.
“I trust and believe in myself, I know what I can do,” Joyner said. “I work hard every single day and I would never let anyone tell me differently. You’ve got doubters. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I don’t listen to it. I pray everyday and I know God’s got me.”
Being such a high profile recruit, especially at the quarterback position, Joyner will elicit high expectations from the Gamecock fanbase. SEC and national championships, no doubt, are being discussed, and Joyner is happy to start the conversation.
“We’re going to have to work and those guys are working now,” he said. “Starting with the SEC East and then the whole SEC, and then win a national championship. I’m saying it now and I mean it.”
Joyner said he will now turn his recruiting interests towards other top prospects, including Clemson commitment DE Xavier Thomas and uncommitted DL Stephon Wynn.
“To win a national championship, I need other guys around me to help me win,” Joyner said. “Come play with a baller. Everybody wants to play with a good quarterback. Hopefully they jump on board.”
Joyner said he is finished with his recruiting and is “110 percent” committed to South Carolina. “I don’t want to go anywhere else.”
Joyner is the Gamecocks’ ninth commitment for the 2018 class and the fifth from South Carolina.
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Soo....what are the odds he can flip XT and others? Obviously if Clemson loses some games this year it'll help. But odds?

Ive always liked the idea of being part of a 'first ever' than being just part of another.
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:46 AM   #1126
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How have mobile QBs with accuracy problems faired here recently?
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:49 AM   #1127
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How have mobile QBs with accuracy problems faired here recently?

Are you implying Joyner has accuracy problems?
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How have mobile QBs with accuracy problems faired here recently?
Well...Connor Shaw and Bruce Ellington found their way to stardom and NFL rosters. Nunez and McIlwain transferred. Like recruiting for ALL positions...its hit or miss.

Remember the Byrnes kid Dorial Robinson (or something cant remmeber) who was the next Randy Moss supposedly and went to UGA? Not sure he even played in a game there. But I pick up 2017 Sporting News yesterday and on the cover is Clemsons former walk on Renfro.

Recruiting is kinda like colored belts in martial arts. It means both everything and nothing at the same time. See Texas A&M, the poster child lately of underachieving with a roster full of NFL bodies.
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:02 AM   #1129
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His strength is not is arm.

Bruce Ellington moved to WR. Joyner has said he only wants to play QB.

Hard to get excited about this one after watching Nunez and McIlwain.
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:17 AM   #1130
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His strength is not is arm.

Bruce Ellington moved to WR. Joyner has said he only wants to play QB.

Hard to get excited about this one after watching Nunez and McIlwain.
I wouldn't think muschamp and roper would make Joyner such a priority if he didn't see something
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:22 AM   #1131
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I wouldn't think muschamp and roper would make Joyner such a priority if he didn't see something
Not to mention Bentley. I'm positive he had a hand in Dakereon's recruitment. That man knows talent when he sees it.
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:24 AM   #1132
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His strength is not is arm.

Bruce Ellington moved to WR. Joyner has said he only wants to play QB.

Hard to get excited about this one after watching Nunez and McIlwain.
Nunez and McIlwain had a trial by fire run since we were thin at QB. Won't be the same situation for Joyner. He'll have time to adjust to the college game.
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:27 AM   #1133
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His strength is not is arm.

Bruce Ellington moved to WR. Joyner has said he only wants to play QB.

Hard to get excited about this one after watching Nunez and McIlwain.
This should be a much better situation than those 2
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This should be a much better situation than those 2
I hope so. It'd be fun to have another true dual-threat QB.
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:37 AM   #1135
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I hope so. It'd be fun to have another true dual-threat QB.
I think DJ has more wiggle than those 2 also. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a package or 2 but he shouldn't be counted on early unless injuries. He could have a chance to be special
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:43 AM   #1136
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Nunez threw for 2072 yards in his career in HS, 46.6 completion percentage, 13 TDs and 14 Ints.

In just his Junior year, Joyner threw for 3,643 yards with a a completion percentage of 64.26, 44 TDs and 6 Interceptions. And those passes were not short tosses - he averaged over 20 yards per completion and a ridiculous 13.44 yards per attempt.

So to answer your question, we have not "faired" well with inaccurate QBs. Thankfully, Joyner has just the opposite of accuracy problems - he is a passing machine, putting up those numbers against the top competition in the state.

It is tough to get players out of the Fort and Boom did it - congrats to him,and to Kereon for making the right decision. Spurs up!
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Soo....what are the odds he can flip XT and others? Obviously if Clemson loses some games this year it'll help. But odds?

Ive always liked the idea of being part of a 'first ever' than being just part of another.
I think those guys are pretty well set and the odds they flip are small, BUT.....




I think it's great that he's trying and if it annoys the Clemson fans, even better....
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The best thing about this pickup is that he won't be forced to play right away. However, I'm envisioning Roper using him like he did Anthony Boone initially. He can be a real weapon in the redzone early in his career.
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His strength is not is arm.

Bruce Ellington moved to WR. Joyner has said he only wants to play QB.

Hard to get excited about this one after watching Nunez and McIlwain.
From the film I saw accuracy looks pretty good.

Bruce was never going to be a QB in college and new it. Game was totally different. The film I have seen on Joyner he is looking to throw even when scrambling.

Everyone knew Nunez would be a project. He never learned to read the coverage and adjust his throws to it.

McIlwain likely would have been much more successful had he not been put into the lineup as a true freshman.
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Here is the biggest thing.
The one thing that dogged Muschamp at Florida was his inability to get a QB.
In his first class he gets Bentley...in his third class, he gets Joyner.

If he can continue builing offensive weapons, and let Wolford get his Oliemen in, things can work in Columbia.

We know the defense will continue to improve. Imagine if Muschamp can get this Defense to what he had at Florida, and mix it with a competent offense with a QB.
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