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Old 11-14-2017, 08:05 PM   #61
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I'll put it simply, are you willing to pay Gary Patterson more than Nick Saban? That's what it would take to pry him away from TCU.
I expect the admin to go cheap, no matter what they're saying publicly. So no.
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On the ROAR radio station this morning, they said Brent Venables is being considered for the position at UT.
Been wondering why I hadn't heard his name yet.
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Old 11-14-2017, 08:23 PM   #63
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I think Veneables would be a great fit but why leave Clemson when it's so easy to win there.
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I think Veneables would be a great fit but why leave Clemson when it's so easy to win there.
Because bad HC money in the SEC is more than double top of the line DC money.
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The Lane Train should roll into Knoxville again.
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The thing about Venables is that he is making right at $1.5M per year and is the 2nd highest paid assistant in the country. Only John Chaves at aTm makes more.

If he is happy there (he seems to be) and doesn't particularly care about being a HC, then why would he leave? Most assistants have to become a HC at a small school first, which would likely be a pay cut.

If he wants to be a HC, however, and can step right into a big job, then more power to him.
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At least they seem to be over the Gruden fantasy.
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Old 11-14-2017, 09:48 PM   #68
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GMFP ain't leaving TCU. Next.
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At least they seem to be over the Gruden fantasy.


I wish. It's not even close to being over with. It's one of the reasons I've been hanging out here the last few days. I want nothing to do with it. Won't even open the Gruden threads.
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Gruden wants back into coaching, but in the NFL. Giants next coach....
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Bring back Lame Kiffen.
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Gruden wants back into coaching, but in the NFL. Giants next coach....
If my choices were UT or the Giants, I think I would go with the Vols....
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Pulling for them to hire Veneables. At least it would probably tear apart some of Clemzon's recruiting class.
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Pulling for them to hire Veneables. At least it would probably tear apart some of Clemzon's recruiting class.

This would be awesome on so many levels. Don't think it would ever happen. Most clempsun folks I know are adamant that BV is very happy in being a top paid assistant only and doesn't want a HC job. We'll see....
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They should have hired Cutcliffe last time. He's kind of old now, but at 63 ish could get some good years out of him.
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As a Gamecock fan, I hope they hire Gruden. That would keep them right where they are for the foreseeable future. If they were smart, they would re-hire Fulmer. He could get them back to where they want to be.
Phil has been out of the game too long.

From my perspective I think Gruden would be a great hire, he should ensure they sink further into the abyss. Im not sure why his name comes up for anything involving HBC jobs at the college level.
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Old 11-16-2017, 10:01 AM   #77
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I agree with this.

1) Patterson
2) Mullen
3) Frost
4) Venebles or Campbell (either at this point in the list).
Lets break your list down.

1) Patterson makes over $5 million per year. After paying Butch and his staff you think yall can pay his buyout, plus a big enough raise to move?

2) Mullen also makes right at $5 million per year. Again, got to pay a buyout, plus Miss St isnt going to just let him walk to another SEC team, theyre going to up the ante so they dont have to hire someone else.

3) Frost, doing a great job at a smaller program. But Dooley and Butch did great at smaller programs, then bombed at UT. Do you think your fan base and boosters can stomach the thought of bringing in another small school guy right after the last two failed?

4) Venebles is the second highest paid Assistant in CFB. Hes stated before hes happy in Clempson, he has a track record of not job hopping, and has indicated he might not want the headaches associated with being a HBC. Its possible you may be able to back up a Brinks truck and convince him to come, but hes already making good money and is happy with his lifestyle. And again...do your boosters and fan base want an unproven HBC after the post Fulmer flops?

Campbell...he might make the jump. But whats his record at ISU? 9-13? Can your boosters and fan base tolerate that after the flops?

If Im your AD, he HAS to be thinking about bringing in an experienced major college guy.

Id bet he has two numbers on his speed dial right now...Chip Kelly and Les Miles.
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Easier job in Texas, no doubt. We could still outbid them. Currently our war chest is pretty full. We just approved a $120 million face lift and are about to start paying a former staff.

I agree that it's highly unlikely. Still need to reach out and try, though.
There was another thread a while back, UTs financial situation was kicked around. Yall dont have as much in that war chest as you think.

If you think UT can outbid TCU, youre delusional. I dont think yall can outbid any major program in the state of Texas, theyre all loaded.

But just to play along, if you want a HBC from the state of Texas, you have two options...1) Chad Morris makes $2 million yearly at SMU, but you have to overlook his losing record. And 2), TAMU will likely fire Sumlin after the season, maybe yall can hire him at an affordable rate factoring in his get out of town check.
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Old 11-16-2017, 10:42 AM   #79
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Patterson would need to bring his entire staff as well. He's always been a solid coach and has been named on radars multiple times. Texas and TAMU are still on shakey grounds. Now that Baylor has stopped letting their athletes rape to their heart's content, they suck. There's never been a better time to be at TCU.

I agree with Les Miles or Chip. Those seem to be the only options where you aren't doing the Dooley 3.0 coaching hire.

Mullen may one day leave Miss St, but I'm not sure it'll be UT over Florida.

Venables is the wild card and would fit with the current coaching hire trends in the SEC. UT can double his salary. And let's be honest, he's basically a head coach now. I doubt any other d-coordinator aside Bud Foster has as much freedom as he does. And UT or Florida is the perfect opportunity for him.
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Butch was asked for a comment as he left his house in Knoxville for the final time:

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