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Old 11-14-2017, 07:10 PM   #1
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Default Hurdle cleared for Kelly to UF

No telling if it will happen, but seems to be a lot of smoke. Kelly brings offense and UF loves offense.

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Old 11-14-2017, 08:26 PM   #2
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Default Re: Hurdle cleared for Kelly to UF

I'm not sure Kelly will work in the SEC everytime Oregon went up against a good defense like Stanford they would get crushed. The offense does score a lot though.
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Fat racist with control issues. Left Oregon with a 'failure to monitor' charge.

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He's a West Coast guy...that didn't work well for them last time but whatever....
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I am not afraid of the prospect. No matter if he's a good offensive coach, so was McElwain. The facts were that all the players that Muschamp recruited for that defense went to the NFL and they haven't been able to recruit any offensive playmakers for years now, so Chip kelly has a long way to go to rebuild both sides of the ball from literally nothing. Hell, they're losing the very last few good defensive players they have after this year. Bone dry going into next year.

They will have no QB next year, their two best WR's leave, and they only thing they will have left is their RB, who was their entire offense anyway. Chip Kelly will struggle bringing the West Coast style offense to freaking Florida, who has absolutely no speed on their offense and is completely one dimensional. The defense will be dogshit for years to come I assure you, and it will at least be another 2 years before they straighten up that dumpster fire of an offense. They just don't have any playmakers.
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Default Re: Hurdle cleared for Kelly to UF

Kelly's success was a direct result of Nike being able to recruit for him. He'll flop at Florida. They need to go with someone who has ties to the Southeast. If they dont chase down ole boy from Miss State theyre doing their program a huge disservice.
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Kelly's success was a direct result of Nike being able to recruit for him. He'll flop at Florida. They need to go with someone who has ties to the Southeast. If they dont chase down ole boy from Miss State theyre doing their program a huge disservice.
Exactly. Maybe Muschamp had a bit of a barren cupboard going into Carolina, but his personality and values allowed us to start rebuilding the second he walked through the door. Guy is a serious motivator for one thing. He screams, he cries, he cares. Loves his players and his team. And because of that we have immediate buy in, which is the reason he was able to get us a top 25 class with only a month of time to recruit, which is still to this day one of his most amazing feats.

The problem with Chip Kelly is he's not a culture shaper like Muschamp. He can't walk in his first year with the current state Florida is in and establish the same type of motivation and buy in. As long as Muschamp and T-Rob are together, we will not struggle to recruit against Chip Kelly, especially the next couple years. UGA and USC are serious threats to their ability to rebuild their program.
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The facts were that all the players that Muschamp recruited for that defense went to the NFL and they haven't been able to recruit any offensive playmakers for years now
They haven’t been able to KEEP their offensive playmakers on the field...for numerous reasons...

Will Grier
Antonio Callaway
Jordan Scarlett

just to name a few...

Add to that McElwain couldn’t develop a QB after the Grier suspension and you saw a eneimic display on offense.

Those are some very good players McElwain had at his disposal...he just couldn’t carryover the discipline that Muschamp had brought during his years in Gainesville.

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Default Chip Kelly Will Fail at Florida

Florida is in full-blown "It's Happening" Mode right now




But in actuality, he is going to be absolutely freaking terrible. Florida has nothing right now, I don't see why they would think Chip Kelly has the motivation trait to come in and rev up this program which is demanding immediate success now. And besides, they can't rebuild if they can't recruit. UGA is sucking them bone dry of their talent and has been for years, and with the connections that Muschamp and T-Rob have with Florida and the clear passion and success they display, Florida will consistently lose recruiting battles under Kelly.

USC is a better team right now, has better recruiters in position, and their coaches are more well-known motivators. UGA and South Carolina have connections and reputation. Kelly will never be able to rebuild that defense, and it'll be years before that offense gets going again.
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Not to mention the shark humping hurdle. Thatís a big one to clear.
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As for bringing the West Coast offense to the SEC, sure it could work, but you NEED to have speed, and Florida is not only completely one dimensional behind a mediocre run game, they don't have any speed at all. Their one running back is a power back behind a less than mediocre offensive line who looks gassed halfway into the first quarter of every game, and their two speedy receivers will not be with the program next year (Callaway, Powell).

They are bone dry not only of talent, but speed on offense. You can't have a successful West Coast offense without both of those things, especially in the SEC where defensive speed is much more present than in the PAC-12.

It's not going to work.
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As for bringing the West Coast offense to the SEC, sure it could work, but you NEED to have speed, and Florida is not only completely one dimensional behind a mediocre run game, they don't have any speed at all. Their one running back is a power back behind a less than mediocre offensive line who looks gassed halfway into the first quarter of every game, and their two speedy receivers will not be with the program next year (Callaway, Powell).

They are bone dry not only of talent, but speed on offense. You can't have a successful West Coast offense without both of those things, especially in the SEC where defensive speed is much more present than in the PAC-12.

It's not going to work.
They aren't quite bone dry but the biggest thing is if you're looking for speed you could argue the first state you look at is FL. I don't know how their fans will react if he doesn't make a massive immediate impact, I think they could turn on him quickly because he is an ass, but if he can hang in there for a few years speed won't be an issue.
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So here is the backdrop on the Florida coaching search:

Jinnie Sexton is representing several perspective coaches at Florida, he is trying to create a bidding war that one of his coaches will win. Florida’s AD is pissed at Sexton for running up the salary for the candidates. So he drops the Rumor that Kelly is the guy. Kelly is the only candidate that is not represented by Sexton. The AD is trying to drive down the price and give the middle finger to Sexton who hammered him on the McElwain exit package.

I am not saying Kelly is not the choice, but things may not be what they appear.
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I feel that Florida fans would rather lose 56-55 than win 17-16. I don’t see Kelly working in the SEC. If I remember correctly, he wasn’t the one who built Oregon, but instead took over a consistent 9 win team and just kept it going. He has yet to show the skills to build something.
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Didnít he get into NCAA trouble at O and thatís why he bolted to the NFL?
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Didn’t he get into NCAA trouble at O and that’s why he bolted to the NFL?
Yes. He had a show cause clause that has expired. SEC commissioner Sankey would have to review and approve of the hire. Appears that will not be a problem
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we’ve seen good coaches fail and no-namers do well so any hire anywhere shouldn’t really scare us. We build a brand for SC and do our thing.
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Exactly. Maybe Muschamp had a bit of a barren cupboard going into Carolina, but his personality and values allowed us to start rebuilding the second he walked through the door. Guy is a serious motivator for one thing. He screams, he cries, he cares. Loves his players and his team. And because of that we have immediate buy in, which is the reason he was able to get us a top 25 class with only a month of time to recruit, which is still to this day one of his most amazing feats.

The problem with Chip Kelly is he's not a culture shaper like Muschamp. He can't walk in his first year with the current state Florida is in and establish the same type of motivation and buy in. As long as Muschamp and T-Rob are together, we will not struggle to recruit against Chip Kelly, especially the next couple years. UGA and USC are serious threats to their ability to rebuild their program.
This right here. Name recognition is a powerful thing but building your own culture and brand from the ground up can overcome a big name. Kelly might do well at Florida but he won't be beating the breaks off teams and winning championships every year like so many of the Gator faithful believe. Champ will be a huge thorn in his side, as will Smart. Gator fans overestimate their program. It won't be an overnight fix no matter who they hire.
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THIS ^^^^^^

I would hate it but that's who they need. He can walk right in and start. If he can recruit for State, what could he do at FLA.?

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