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Old 01-09-2019, 09:47 PM   #301
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Default Re: *** USC MBB (6-7) vs. #14 Mississippi St. (12-1) ***

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Its much more than that announcer that have said this. Its true in so many situations outside of sports. I don't see why you think support for an institution can only come after success. That is just not how reality works.
It depends on what you mean by "support". I think USC MBB has a lot of support. Even when in cases like the Miss. State game, where there were critical statements about despite what the official attendance was for the game, there looked to be some 6,000 actually at the game. An attendance of 6,000 would sell out Gonzaga's arena, and teams like Baylor, LSU, GT, Miami, UGA, Clemson - even Miss. State - would have 70%+ full arenas.

Even during mediocre seasons, USC's home attendance usually falls in the top 50 of CMBB. For CFB that's poor, but with the some-340 MBB programs in Division I, top 50 is pretty good.

2017-18: 24th (17-16)
2016-17: 21st (26-11)(our program record season)(NCAAT - Final Four)
2015-16: 31st (25-9)(NIT - 2nd rd.)
2014-15: 33rd (17-16)
2013-14: 41st (14-20)
2012-13: 51st (14-18)(8,603 - low point)
2011-12: 45th (10-21)
2010-11: 41st (14-16)
2009-10: 30th (15-16)
2008-09: 31st (21-10)(NIT - 1st rd.)
2007-08: 29th (14-18)
2006-07: 24th (14-16)
2005-06: 56th (23-15)(9,090)(NIT - Champions)
2004-05: 42nd (20-13)(NIT - Champions)
2003-04: 28th (23-11)(NCAAT - 1st rd.)
2002-03: 22nd (12-16)(first season in CLA)

In fact, we've been in the top 30 nationally as much as anything else, since we've moved into the CLA. And yes those numbers represent sold tickets more than fannies in the seats, but that's how most all other MBB programs tally up their attendance figures too, so it's all relative. But we've been averaging top 30-50 attendance, for a MBB program that has NOT been averaging as one of the top 30-50 winning programs every year. If we did that, we'd be playing in the NCAAT every season. Has it been averaging top 100 for most of those years???

Other than the initial season in the CLA, where the team was not successful but the state of the art arena helped draw the fans, the best upswings in average attendance over the years have been as a result of success within the program. NOT the other way around.

The worst national ranking we've had - and 2nd worst average attendance we've had in CLA - came during the 2005-06 season when we were defending NIT champs, and were on our way to another 20+ win season and 2nd NIT title.

The next season - 2006-07 - we jumped up to averaging 12,838 per home game, even though we went 14-16 that season. It wasn't because of wins in 06-07: it was because of the previous season's success.

We're always proud to tell about selling out every home FB game in 1999, but we still went 0-11, didn't we?? Why didn't those sell-outs help with the wins?

I'm not talking about having 500-1000 fans in the stands for MBB games. We're still putting a lot of people in the seats, but compared to 18,000 it looks dead in the CLA. What we've really been talking about, is filling up CLA to the brim every game with screaming, crazy fans. Creating a rabid home-court advantage. And I'm just saying that USC fans will not fill up CLA and scream for teams that lose as much as they win, year after year after year. And I'm not talking about the students - I'm talking about the full-ticket-price paying fans that have come to USC MBB games for decades, if not generations. And watched us struggle mightily to win games.

And I doubt they would do that either, for programs that once had winning traditions, if they start losing year after year. In WBB, Lady Vols fans are not going to their home games like they once did under Summitt, because the program doesn't win like it once did. But they still are among the top 5-10 programs in WBB in home attendance. But is that getting UTjr. those wins??
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:00 PM   #302
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There's more seating behind the basket so that's where most students go. I try to sit opposite the scorer's table but it's somewhat limited.
The student seats opposite the scorer's table weren't filled last night.
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How many people will the upper level at the CLA seat?
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Old 01-09-2019, 11:20 PM   #304
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So, Arkansas is absolutely horrible! We can beat them
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:43 AM   #305
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USC sell a fair amount of season tickets. It's relatively rare that most of them show up.

So there is a difference between tickets sold and people in the building. And the reality of our attendance is that the people in the building lags way, way behind the published ticket sold data.

But out tickets sold does rank relatively high.
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:46 PM   #306
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The student seats opposite the scorer's table weren't filled last night.
Because it was a week before classes even started. I'm talking about if you pick a random game during the semester.
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