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Old 11-19-2012, 03:12 PM   #1
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Default Anyone Miss Ellis' 10-yard cushion on WR's?

Just realized that we no longer have to go crazy wondering why we give a monsterous cushion to wide receivers that (used to) give them easy conversions on 3rd down.

Ellis, you were great, but Whammy ain't no salameeee!
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:18 PM   #2
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Default Re: Anyone Miss Ellis' 10-yard cushion on WR's?

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Just realized that we no longer have to go crazy wondering why we give a monsterous cushion to wide receivers that (used to) give them easy conversions on 3rd down.

Ellis, you were great, but Whammy ain't no salameeee!
so are you saying we aren't doing this any longer? if so that is great news! we can't afford to do this Saturday.
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:21 PM   #3
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Default Re: Anyone Miss Ellis' 10-yard cushion on WR's?

One of the things I can't stand about our D this year is that there is always a wide open receiver for the other team on third down. This problem is still out there
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Default Re: Anyone Miss Ellis' 10-yard cushion on WR's?

He was able to stifle Clemson's offense the last 3 years so I'm not sure anyone can say him not being here is a good thing this year. We will see how Ward does in his debut against Clemson as a DC. That said I expect a win.
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Default Re: Anyone Miss Ellis' 10-yard cushion on WR's?

The difference between those defenses and this year isn't the cushion, because I've seen those on the field this year. The difference is the first move. In years past as soon as the ball was snapped the DBs would move backwards leaving the space. This season, they sit on the receiver and read/watch the route ... taking away the space and giving them the chance to jump the route (i.e. Legree's pick against LSU)
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One of the things I can't stand about our D this year is that there is always a wide open receiver for the other team on third down. This problem is still out there
Well you can't be everywhere at once. Those small 10 yard completions killed us in the years past. I'd rather gamble with playing man to man then to give up 10 yards by playing way too conservative.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:39 PM   #7
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Default Re: Anyone Miss Ellis' 10-yard cushion on WR's?

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Just realized that we no longer have to go crazy wondering why we give a monsterous cushion to wide receivers that (used to) give them easy conversions on 3rd down.

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Um, yeah. About that. We still give that cushion and will do it against Clemson as well.

They allow that cushion when they are concerned about getting beat deep. If you don't think we will be worried about that on Saturday, you are mistaken. Expect Clemson to have a lot of 7-10 yard completions.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:09 PM   #9
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Just realized that we no longer have to go crazy wondering why we give a monsterous cushion to wide receivers that (used to) give them easy conversions on 3rd down.

Ellis, you were great, but Whammy ain't no salameeee!
Missed the UTen game? Vandy showed us how to play defense last Sat. nite....hope Whammy noticed.
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Um, yeah. About that. We still give that cushion and will do it against Clemson as well.

They allow that cushion when they are concerned about getting beat deep. If you don't think we will be worried about that on Saturday, you are mistaken. Expect Clemson to have a lot of 7-10 yard completions.
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Default Re: Anyone Miss Ellis' 10-yard cushion on WR's?

Does anyone think Tajh is going to have a lot of time to sit in the pocket and make long passes? Doesnt matter if our guys get beat deep at all, because by that time, JC and DT and CS are going to be having a Boyd Sammich....
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Does anyone think Tajh is going to have a lot of time to sit in the pocket and make long passes? Doesnt matter if our guys get beat deep at all, because by that time, JC and DT and CS are going to be having a Boyd Sammich....
...As long as the D line applies the pressure like we should The Gamecocks will win in the same fashion as we have the last 3 years....I think we will see klempzun at least try to establish some kind of run game using quick hand offs and play action to slow the rush down...If that dont work for them it is over....
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our redzone d has really regressed
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:42 PM   #14
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Default Re: Anyone Miss Ellis' 10-yard cushion on WR's?

LSU showed how to pass on us. Short and Quicks passes. Morris will probably call these as long as we give them the cushion and as soon as we move up, they will go deep. If we get pressure, they will have problems. If we don't, they will put up 60. I am not impressed with Ward's ability to make adjustments.
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LSU showed how to pass on us. Short and Quicks passes. Morris will probably call these as long as we give them the cushion and as soon as we move up, they will go deep. If we get pressure, they will have problems. If we don't, they will put up 60. I am not impressed with Ward's ability to make adjustments.

LSU showed how to run on us as well by taking it straight at Clowney. The only team that I remember doing this during the course of the season.
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LSU showed how to run on us as well by taking it straight at Clowney. The only team that I remember doing this during the course of the season.
Comparing LSU's studs on the oline, their 280 lb fullback, and their multiple 5 star running backs to clemtech is flawed. The reason no one else has done it to us this year is that no one outside of Bama has LSU's personnel. Quarles, big Byron, Taylor, and Clowney will stop the tater run, bank on it.
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I haven't been all that impressed with the pass defense this season either to say the least. Not sure where this is coming from.
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Hopkins and Watkins will have a big game if we don't tighten that s*&^ up. Seriously, Clemson can score, we can on a lucky day.Their run game is better now, but our d front is nasty. But their pass game is definitely better than ours.
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Does anyone think Tajh is going to have a lot of time to sit in the pocket and make long passes? Doesnt matter if our guys get beat deep at all, because by that time, JC and DT and CS are going to be having a Boyd Sammich....
Unfortunately, I think he will have ample time - not all-day kind of time, but ample. I think CU's O-line is gonna be improved from last year. For one, they don't have that Price kid who was playing badly hurt - he was a liability on that side of their line last year. They'll be holding our guys all night long, and with an SEC crew up there, we'll get no holding calls. We might get to Boyd a couple of times, but I don't expect us to run roughshod over their line. I hope I'm wrong!
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Hopkins and Watkins will have a big game if we don't tighten that s*&^ up. Seriously, Clemson can score, we can on a lucky day.Their run game is better now, but our d front is nasty. But their pass game is definitely better than ours.
A lot of teams have been showing man this year to Clemson which is weird because this allows Nuk and Sammy to go one on one with guys. This also has opened up a lot of big plays. If sc decides to do that be prepared to try to defend some deep passes and jump balls when Clemson gets in the redone.
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