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Old 11-21-2012, 10:18 PM   #1
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Default Connor Shaw's rushing stats..

This is a direct quote from Steve Spurrier earlier in the season.. "There's no question that running the ball is what Connor does, which makes him a good quarterback," Spurrier said. "So if he plays, he'll run it some. If he can't run, I don't think he's quite as effective."

Games where Connor has rushed more than 5 times and his yards per carry.
Vandy - 6.6 YPC
Mizzou - 3.4 YPC (and had 80 yard TD called back)
KY - 4.0 YPC
Georgia - 5.6 YPC
LSU - -0.1 YPC
Florida - -0.2 YPC
Tenn - 1.8 YPC
Arkansas - 1.3 YPC
Wofford - 1.8 YPC

For the past five games, Connor hasn't been effective running the ball and he is not even averaging 2 yards per carry. I know it includes sacks, but he was sacked in the first four games as well. Look at how glaring the difference is in the first few games compared to the last part of the season.

When did Connor hurt his foot? I didn't realize the drop off in his mobility had been that significant until I watched the highlights of his first 6 games of this year that are posted in another thread. He looks like a completely different player.

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Old 11-22-2012, 02:38 PM   #2
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Default Re: Connor Shaw's rushing stats..

Maybe it's his foot, or maybe the staff has been emphasizing to him to run through his progressions before he takes off running.

A lot of the times he's took off running he still had time to throw, and he had receivers open.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:18 PM   #3
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does that mean he isnt a very good pocket passer?
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Default Re: Connor Shaw's rushing stats..

The biggest difference I see is he doesn't push it when he runs anymore. He just takes the open yards and then goes down. Which is what coach has been telling him to do. It means he might not break the big one but he will make it through the whole game by not taking too many hits.
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Default Re: Connor Shaw's rushing stats..

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This is a direct quote from Steve Spurrier earlier in the season.. "There's no question that running the ball is what Connor does, which makes him a good quarterback," Spurrier said. "So if he plays, he'll run it some. If he can't run, I don't think he's quite as effective."

Games where Connor has rushed more than 5 times and his yards per carry.
Vandy - 6.6 YPC
Mizzou - 3.4 YPC (and had 80 yard TD called back)
KY - 4.0 YPC
Georgia - 5.6 YPC
LSU - -0.1 YPC
Florida - -0.2 YPC
Tenn - 1.8 YPC
Arkansas - 1.3 YPC
Wofford - 1.8 YPC

For the past five games, Connor hasn't been effective running the ball and he is not even averaging 2 yards per carry. I know it includes sacks, but he was sacked in the first four games as well. Look at how glaring the difference is in the first few games compared to the last part of the season.

When did Connor hurt his foot? I didn't realize the drop off in his mobility had been that significant until I watched the highlights of his first 6 games of this year that are posted in another thread. He looks like a completely different player.

I started noticing this a few games back, that we still run the zone read but seldom does shaw pull it and run.

I think it has slowed the entire running game. Teams know where to focus and aren't caught off balance.
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:34 PM   #6
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I started noticing this a few games back, that we still run the zone read but seldom does shaw pull it and run.

I think it has slowed the entire running game. Teams know where to focus and aren't caught off balance.
I noticed this too. In fact, I went back and watched Wofford game and posted about it in another thread. He didn't keep that ball one time in that game on a zone read play. Not once. He had a couple of scrambles and one designed QB draw, but no zone reads where he kept it.
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South Carolina is 2-0 when Kenny Miles has 20 carries and 100 yards...Just sayin
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I noticed this too. In fact, I went back and watched Wofford game and posted about it in another thread. He didn't keep that ball one time in that game on a zone read play. Not once. He had a couple of scrambles and one designed QB draw, but no zone reads where he kept it.
Part of that, atleast in the wofford game was his foot.
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Part of that, atleast in the wofford game was his foot.
Oh I am sure it is mostly his foot. But what I am saying is that if his foot is bothering him that bad, he may not be our best choice at QB for the Clemson game. Based specifically on matchup a and how weak Clemsons secondary is now

Go back to the very top of this thread and look at the quote directly from Spurrier early in the season. He directly says that what makes Connor a good qb is his ability to run. If he doesn't have that ability, then I am hoping they at least have him on a short leash Saturday night.

No disrespect at all to Connor because I love the guy. But as bad as Clemsons secondary is this year, we need a guy in that will throw the ball.
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The other thing Shaw does, is require a spy from the defense, whether he runs or not. Shaw gives us the best chance to win, period.
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