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Old 12-06-2012, 12:11 PM   #1
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With Spurrier extending his contract to 2017, and his age, I was wondering, do you guys think we do the "coach in waiting" game?

The reason I ask is because of a recent editorial by Scott Hood of GamecockCentral.

I'm not a big fan of Scott, but he raises valid points in this piece.
http://southcarolina.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1445674

But my question stems from near the end, when he mentions Ward, Elliott and Mangus eventually taking head coaching jobs.

Do you guys think we name one of those three as our next head coach when Spurrier hangs it up..presumably after the 2017 season?

Or even Spurrier Jr.?
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:15 PM   #2
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Spurrier Jr. would be awful.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:17 PM   #3
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Spurrier Jr. would be awful.
Maybe, but that isn't the question.
Will we or won't we have a coach in waiting?
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Mangus as a head coach???????

I'm just hoping the Clay Travis dumptruck full of cash theory is deployed when the time comes. Let's get the best man, inside or out.
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Default Re: Will we have a coach in waiting?

I'm not real big on the HCIW title but in the right situation it could work. I used to think of the three that Mangus would probably be the one...but I am thinking more Ward these days. I think it would be great from a consistency standpoint. Scheme, recruiting, coaches etc.. would have little/no turnover. I don't care that they make it official or anything, as long as they have a plan and make sure the recruits and players are on board.
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Maybe, but that isn't the question.
Will we or won't we have a coach in waiting?
Every candidate in the United States is a HC in waiting....they will all be waiting until Spurrier retires. The job is attractive enough to pull someone back should they leave. I guess to answer your question is another question....how did that work out before for others doing it ? NOT GOOD !
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Default Re: Will we have a coach in waiting?

Little Scotty Spurrier... lol.. totally kidding.... can anyone think of a coaches kid that ended up ever being better than his dad... and no... Lane is not better than Monte Kiffin... lol
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:36 PM   #8
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Default Re: Will we have a coach in waiting?

Doubt it. It's not spurrier's style. There might be some understanding that a guy will get consideration, like say Whammy is tearing it up for the next 4-5 years and he gets a great offer and we want to keep him real bad then maybe we name him assistant head coach like ellis was and it is understood that he will get a look. But I mean spurrier won't even let someone else call the plays, much less be kind of the semi-head coach.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:39 PM   #9
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Default Re: Will we have a coach in waiting?

HCIW is essentially a dead tag since the NCAA amended its rules so that HCIW's have to follow the same restricted recruiting guidelines as a head coach. Thus, you don't see HCIW anymore because it limits two coaching staff members instead of one. There may be informal agreements, but the official HCIW is pretty detrimental to recruiting unless you have a 90 year old coach and it's a legitimate concern to recruits who the next coach will be. In that case the old guy probably isn't doing too much recruiting to begin with.

I don't think there are any more HCIW left in America now that Muschamp, Fisher and Franklin took HC jobs. Might be wrong though
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:41 PM   #10
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Default Re: Will we have a coach in waiting?

Seriously, is there any larger distraction to a football program than to have a coach-in-waiting? I think that sh*t has run its course and we won't see any more of that.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:48 PM   #11
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Default Re: Will we have a coach in waiting?

For all we know, our best candidate to coach in several years may not yet be on the drawing board. I wouldn't want to limit our options this far out.
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I hate the "coach in waiting BS"
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Personally not a fan of HCIW, but Tanner does have some experience in how to play it.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:50 PM   #14
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Yeah it was a stupid idea anyways, not like the coach or school is really that obligated, see Muschamp, Will.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:56 PM   #15
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I don't believe I have faith in anyone on our staff apart from possibly Whammy. I don't want this decent head coach with good coordinators. I want a HEAD COACH. those are the teams with championships. Not Dabo and crew. I want Charlie Strong with a good OC. Not whammy with Magnus.
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Initially, I thought this gig was GA Mangus' to lose but it looks like GA has, at least temporarily, dug a ditch he can't get out of. But really, he makes the most sense because he knows the system, he has head coaching and OC experience (albeit at a lower division), and he can flat out recruit his ass off.

But right now, I think Coach Tanner is going to go with the smoothest transition. So that is why I think, now, Whammy is going to be the leader in the clubhouse when the time to replace Spurrier comes. I may be wrong, but I think he has to know that he has a better than average chance of getting this job if he sticks around. Unlike EJ, Whammy is still relatively young and is still growing in the profession. I think the next order of business will be to name him assistant head coach (if he doesn't already have the title, I forget) or give him the head coach in charge of the defense title.

What I do know is that when the time nears, Tanner and Spurrier are going to have a plan laid out and that should ease the stress of a lot of USC fans. I just don't think Tanner and Spurrier are going to be going outside the family for a replacement though unless it is someone with a strong Spurrier tie.
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Looks like that was integrated . . . so it was one of the questions.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:12 PM   #18
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Default Re: Will we have a coach in waiting?

No, it is too soon to commit to the next coach. Let ALL the options present themselves, then make a decision.
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Yes, we are going to actually have two official head coaches. Urban Meyer and Nick Saban.

Both are pissed about Spurrier's comments about going somewhere where nothing has been won before and winning championships. It's all but a done deal.

I cannot back this up with sources, truth or facts.
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I think everyone is dismissing what seems to be the most logical choice for the next HC. That is, SOS being his own successor. Just entertain the thought here...

At 72 SOS decides he wants to step down as his knees are not quite as fuild and old age is starting to weigh heavy on him physically. Right before his retirement, Steve commits incredible NCAA infractions and blows the whistle himself. SOS's self-destructive sabotage leads the NCAA to bring down the banhammer and the death penalty to SC Football. Meanwhile, Steve is cryogenically frozen during which USC is forced to give up football.

In 2024 Steve is revived and engineered up in a darth vader manner, where he is now stronger and more powerful than ever (see Lattimore 2013). A la Lame Kiffin y Pee Carroll, SOS is able to avoid the NCAA penalties and the hiring of another USC head coach, while also allowing himself to resurrect USC's program. Thus, he is his own HCIW.

I think the writing is on the wall people.
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