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Blue Chip
Male Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: seattle
Posts: 674
CockyCash: 100998900 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I realized today how much I miss college football. (while watching the Georgia Southern vs ODU game, a game I would have never turned on a month ago.)
And the bowl season isn't starting quick enough for me, well at least with any match ups I care about. At the begining of the season there was an espn article ( http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/i...ecs-sleeper-qb ) that sparked some discussion about whether Shaw was improving as the 2011 season went on or whether he was just more comfortable on at home instead of on the road. Anyway, I decided that with the lack of college football today was the perfect time to crunch some numbers and see what I could gleen from the 2012 stats. Here are his home/away splits for 2011 and 2012: ------------------------------------------------------------- Home vs Away (2011) Overall 123/188 (65.4%) 1448 yds 14 tds, 6 ints Rushing 525 on 135 carries 8tds Home 77/117 (65.8%) 1078 yds 12 tds, 2 ints rushing 409 yds on 89 carries 5 tds Away/Neutral 46/71 (64.8%) 370 yds, 2 tds, 4 ints rushing 116 yds on 46 carries 3 tds Home vs Away (2012) Overall 136/202 (67.3%) 1732 yds 15 tds, 7 ints Rushing 339 on 121 carries 3tds Home 86/119 (72.3%) 1268 yds 11 tds, 4 ints rushing 174 yds on 67 carries 3 tds Away/Neutral 50/83 (60.2%) 464yds, 4 tds, 3 ints rushing 165 yds on 54 carries 0tds --------------------------------------------------------------- The biggest thing that jumps out at me when I look at this is the TD:INT ratio. Way worse on the road both years. Most of those road games are road SEC games and the SEC is one hell of rough place to play on the road, so maybe that explains it. And this year we played some highly ranked teams on the road so maybe that explains it. Have a look at Ranked vs Unranked splits between 2011 and 2012: ------------------------------------------------------------------ 2011 Ranked vs Unranked teams Overall 123/188 (65.4%) 1448 yds 14 tds, 6 ints Rushing 525 on 135 carries 8tds Ranked 41/62 (66.1%) 568 yds 5 tds, 1 ints rushing 173 yds on 52 carries 4 tds Unranked 82/126 (65.1%) 880yds, 9 tds, 5 ints rushing 352 yds on 83 carries 4 tds 2012 Ranked vs Unranked teams Overall 136/202 (67.3%) 1732 yds 15 tds, 7 ints Rushing 339 on 121 carries 3tds Ranked 34/64 (53.1%) 411 yds 4 tds, 2 ints rushing 75 yds on 35 carries 1 tds Unranked 102/138 (73.9%) 1321 yds, 11 tds, 5 ints rushing 264 yds on 86 carries 2 tds ------------------------------------------------------------------ Now you can look at tons of different things, but those are pretty similar TD:INT ratios in 2012 (roughly 2:1) against ranked or unranked opponents and in 2011 Connor Shaw's numbers look worse against unranked teams. But both years, there is a pretty dramatic drop when you compare the ratios between home and away. In 2011, the ratio at home was 6:1 and on the road was 0.5:1. Now he improved on the road in 2012 but the difference between the ratios is still there. In 2012, at home 2.75:1 while on the road 1.333:1. (I have excel graphs to illustrate the point but I do not know how to add them to this post.) I want to be clear that I am not trying to talk smack about connor or take a side in the CS vs DT debate. I just wanted to see if Connor's numbers on the road had improved in 2012. Short answer: He improved some, but there is still a big difference in his numbers that cannot be explained (at least statically) by whether the team was ranked or not. -I am excited to see what people think about these numbers and for anyone that knows how to tell me how to add an excel graph to a post (I have it in JPG and xlsx formats) One last stat: TD:INT ratio against top 5 teams at home in 2012 2:0 on the road 2:2. |
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...where the Pampers is.
Male Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 5,243
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Every QB plays better on the road. Nice summary though. 9.2 for effort.
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4-Star
Male Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Lexington
Posts: 398
CockyCash: 500 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Man! Now you went and blew my mind!
I think Conner did ok. |
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Blue Chip
Male Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: seattle
Posts: 674
CockyCash: 100998900 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Creamy Beige
Male Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: The Bluff
Posts: 755
CockyCash: 410 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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1st Team All-SEC
Male Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: blythewood
Posts: 3,815
CockyCash: 2400 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
road games this year were more difficult
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Banned
Male Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Columbia
Posts: 1,055
CockyCash: 600 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I agree, they were difficult. But he still had that run first tendency we tried to break Garcia of for years. Next year we will get to see how good Connor really is, and how well he can develop. I believe he can get better, and that he will. Just needs to work hard as hell, because there is this Mitch guy coming in that runs the system SOS is accustomed to, and if Connor Shaw doesn't keep on moving, he is going to be passed.
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1st Team All-SEC
Male Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: blythewood
Posts: 3,815
CockyCash: 2400 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
no doubt that he got some happy feet
wish he got to play at clemson to give him more experience on the road in order to take the next step as a program we need to get better on the road against good teams |
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Banned
Male Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Columbia
Posts: 1,055
CockyCash: 600 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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He is going to have to get better at passing, because the guy coming in, well he can pass. Havent had that in a while. |
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Do What Feels Right
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This is great news...hope he gets a lot of playing time...would be a sweet way to end a tough year for him
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1st Team All-American
Male Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Virginia
Posts: 12,493
CockyCash: 30205 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I think a lot of Connor's completions were short passes. He really hasn't thrown many mid-range passes to WR. I think our offense this year ranks
like 80th, and I doubt it was much better last year. Our WR yards have really fallen off the last couple of years. |
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Starter
Male Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Anywhere USC is playing.
Posts: 1,438
CockyCash: 500 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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"I don't know. I sort of always liked playing them that second game because you could always count on them having two or three key players suspended."-S. Spurrier on scheduling changes in the sec. |
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Here are all of the defenses Connor has faced over the last two seasons, ranked in order by their pass efficiency rating. Underneath, they are sorted by year with each team's national ranking in parentheses.
2012 Florida - 91.59 - Away 2012 Vanderbilt - 99.77 - Away 2012 LSU - 103.43 - Away 2011 Vanderbilt - 110.76 - Home 2011 Arkansas - 113.21 - Away 2011 Mississippi State - 117.70 - Away 2011 Florida - 117.75 - Home 2011 Kentucky - 117.89 - Home 2012 Georgia - 119.68 - Home 2011 Nebraska - 120.43 - Neutral 2011 Tennessee - 125.58 - Away 2011 East Carolina - 129.96 - Neutral 2011 Clemson - 133.50 - Home 2012 Missouri - 137.93 - Home 2012 Tennessee - 138.70 - Home 2012 Kentucky - 146.56 - Away 2012 Arkansas - 147.30 - Home 2012 UAB - 151.48 - Home 2011 East Carolina - 129.96 (#61) Vanderbilt - 110.76 (#9) Kentucky - 117.89 (#29) @Mississippi State - 117.70 (#27) @Tennessee - 125.58 (#48) @Arkansas - 113.21 (#17) Florida - 117.75 (#28) The Citadel - NA Clemson - 133.50 (#74) Nebraska - 120.43 (34) 2012 @Vanderbilt - 99.77 (#5) UAB - 151.48 (#113) Missouri - 137.93 (#84) @Kentucky - 146.56 (#102) Georgia - 119.68 (#32) @LSU - 103.43 (#9) @Florida - 91.59 (#1) Tennessee - 138.70 (#86) Arkansas - 147.30 (#104) Wofford - NA
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6th Year Senior
Male Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Murrells Inlet
Posts: 3,943
CockyCash: 1154261 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Connor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Creamy Beige
Male Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: The Bluff
Posts: 755
CockyCash: 410 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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1st Team All-American
Male Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Kingsland, Ga.
Posts: 10,029
CockyCash: 200 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
He also played injured this season too.
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Starter
Male Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Florence, SC
Posts: 1,253
CockyCash: 500 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Yep. Injured in first game and played anyway.
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4-Star
Male Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 308
CockyCash: 100500 ![]() ![]() |
As much as Dylan ran and threw against Clemson, Connor would have loved to have that game to pad some stats. He'd rushed for 100+ for 2 scores. And passed for 250+ with 2 scores. No doubt in my mind.
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All Everything
Male Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Right Here, Right Now
Posts: 1,458
CockyCash: 300 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Please find a way to get those charts in, maybe even a webex with some power point and this will be just like work. Thanks for the efforts though.
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4-Star
Male Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Earth
Posts: 494
CockyCash: 200 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ill be that guy, DT for starter! No questions about it.
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