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[uscfan1]

Clowney
bills61584 - Amateur [47 pts]
posted 12 hours ago
A buddy of mine that works for Clemson told me that the reason Clowney pushed his commitment announcement past signing day is because he wanted to go to Clemson but he had to wait to see if he could make it into school. The day he was denied admission, he called nick saban and Saban told him flat out no. That's when he called the coot coaches and committed to them. He apparently begged Clemson to take him but they wouldnt. Our admission standards need to change if we want to keep up with teams like LSU and Alabama. We are a Clowney away from being in the national championship this year and next. So blame it on the admissions

[lilhornet]

I've heard Clowney had genuine interest in Clemson but even with that he was a Gamecock.

[Gamecock1983]

Good God what a bunch of idiots. Do they really believe that cow college is so academically advanced that they won't accept top-notch football players? Hell, CJ Spiller and a whole laundry list of dimwits have gotten in and succeeded...even become Academic All-Americans (even under Clemsux's SUPER TOUGH standards).

Sour grapes and low intellect are a bad mix.

/thread.

[Schecter]

I think his mom wanted him to go to clemson... I remember hearing(I could be wrong) that he wanted to go clemson until the night before and he changed his mind.... Why would Nick Saban tell him no? that makes zero sense.

[75CarolinaFan]

Clemson fans and media always say this but they will never give the details on any difference. Ask any of them what the difference in standards are and they can't tell you. Just another attempt at a moral victory since they haven't been getting it done on the field very much. Every year Clemson takes borderline signees. That is evidenced by the amount of players they send to prep and sign from prep. Their standards are no different than any other BCS conference schools with the exception of some Big East teams.

[uscfreek88]

he was never going to clemson

[DJCatfish]

So Clowney couldn't get in to Alabama, but Clemson needs to lower it's standard to compete with Alabama? Makes total sense.

[Evilchicken2]

I embrace this chain of events, because it just makes the story that much more sour for Clemson fans!

[Jdallen20]

Yea, the notion that Clemson has "too tough" academic standards to allow certain big-time recruits to be accepted is absolute ludicrous. Are they seriously trying to convince people that a player like Clowney did not meet academic standards and THAT'S why he didn't go to Clem?.... SMH. I guarantee his transcript would have passed all standards for Clemson if he had decided to go there... as with any other school. I'm not that naive.

[Cocky Ute]

Good hell.

I swear clemson is the byu of the East Coast.

JUST TODAY Jabari Parker (No.1 BBall recruit) committed to Duke and revealed that byu wasn't even in his top 3, their fan board (Cougarboard, go there if you wanna laugh yourself sick), erupted in throughs of "he wouldn't have worked here anyway." Their Beat writer tweeted the following "if Jabari didn't even consider BYU his best choice for spirituality then it's clear BYU didn't have much of a chance." their arrogance is astounding, much like clemson. Even this year, with Manti Te'o they said "He couldn't have gotten into byu anyway", when in fact, their idiot of a coach told him "You probably couldn't live the lifestyle here at byu."

I refer you to another post to further illustrate my point:

http://www.cockytalk.com/showpost.ph...68&postcount=4

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I just hope I am able to relay the similarities of the douchiness in the fan-bases, and to prepare you if ever you meet* one of these self serving, bigoted, holier-than-thou assholes.

*As a side note, byu fans from provo (or actually attended school there) are a different breed of fans than those who are Mormons and happen to be byu fans. The latter are akin to Catholics who are a fan of _____ team and also are ND fans.

Sorry, I'm done.

[GarnetBlack&Blue]

That's so stupid, Clemson has, for all intents and purposes, the same admission standards as us for athletes...

for comparison, WVU and USF are 2 schools that standout as having very low academic standards for admission... neither one is really challenging for national championships (though WVU snuck in some BCS games as the champion of the TERRIBLE Big East)

on the other side, Stanford has very high standards, yet has been outstanding....

[JoeMorrisonLives]

I'm not 100% on this but I think Clemson accepts players with ncaa minimum required scores, not their normal standards, we don't take ncaa minimum. If I am correct, Clemson, and for that matter 'bama players are admitted by ncaa standards. Spurrier has lobbied for that with the admissions board arguing that athletes deserve the extra bump from time they sacrifice training and what they bring to the college.

[Regalcock]

Clowney would be a three year player at any school. Anything to the contrary is poppycock.

[USCremedy]

CJ Spiller got into Clemson....i rest my case

[USCremedy]

http://www.tigernet.com/forums/messa...ageID=13358574

heres the thread.. crazy taters

[Spurticus]

Originally Posted by lilhornet

I've heard Clowney had genuine interest in Clemson but even with that he was a Gamecock.

Originally Posted by Schecter

I think his mom wanted him to go to clemson... I remember hearing(I could be wrong) that he wanted to go clemson until the night before and he changed his mind.... Why would Nick Saban tell him no? that makes zero sense.

There was NEVER at any point in Clowney's recruitment that he had an
interest in going to Clemson. Clowney has stated that numerous times
before and after he signed to play here at USC.

The ONLY point where Clemson came up as a possibility was AFTER
he announced that he was going to wait until Feb. 14th (his birthday)
to make his decision, and would do it on ESPN who was having a
program on HS recruits / players. Shortly before NSD (Feb 2nd) he and
his mom made a visit to the Clemson campus, and his mom made the
public statement that she was impressed with Clemson's school and
with the Coaching staff (THAT WAS IT). She never said "I would like
for Jadeveon to play there" or "That is where I hope he choses to go".
JC never said anything about the visit other than..."It was a nice visit"

Clowney ended up announcing on Feb. 10-11th, a few days prior to
the National Broadcast date he had set because he said that he was
getting tired of the hype and the reporters and so forth and wanted to
get on with life. ..... After he made it offical, JC said that ESPN had
approached him about holding off on the decision until their National
Broadcast, AND THEY wanted him to include Clemson now as his
second choice for "Dramatic Effect" leading up to the announcment.
Until that time, Clemson was not even in his top 10 list of schools, and
they were never (NEVER) a consideration. Jadeveon was going to be
a Gamecock since his freshman year in HS.

[cockypanther]

Clowney couldn't "get" into Clemson, but Sammy Watkins with his profound intellect made it? Yeah, okay that makes sense....

[Coondog]

Originally Posted by Spurticus

There was NEVER at any point in Clowney's recruitment that he had an
interest in going to Clemson. Clowney has stated that numerous times
before and after he signed to play here at USC.

The ONLY point where Clemson came up as a possibility was AFTER
he announced that he was going to wait until Feb. 14th (his birthday)
to make his decision, and would do it on ESPN who was having a
program on HS recruits / players. Shortly before NSD (Feb 2nd) he and
his mom made a visit to the Clemson campus, and his mom made the
public statement that she was impressed with Clemson's school and
with the Coaching staff (THAT WAS IT). She never said "I would like
for Jadeveon to play there" or "That is where I hope he choses to go".
JC never said anything about the visit other than..."It was a nice visit"

Clowney ended up announcing on Feb. 10-11th, a few days prior to
the National Broadcast date he had set because he said that he was
getting tired of the hype and the reporters and so forth and wanted to
get on with life. ..... After he made it offical, JC said that ESPN had
approached him about holding off on the decision until their National
Broadcast, AND THEY wanted him to include Clemson now as his
second choice for "Dramatic Effect" leading up to the announcment.
Until that time, Clemson was not even in his top 10 list of schools, and
they were never (NEVER) a consideration. Jadeveon was going to be
a Gamecock since his freshman year in HS.

Exactly! JD had given USC a silent committment long before NSD. The players and coaches all knew he was comming and once the national media realised that Bama was no longer an option because JD's mother didn't want to travel so far to see him play Clemson suddenly became his other school out of nowhere. ESPN was the ones hyping all this up and Clemson was nothing more than a prop for ESPN to build up some drama with the #1 recruit in the country.

Every time Clemson looses a recruit there fan base twists it around to make it look like it was Clemson that turned them down. There delusional fan base just can't deal with the reality of top tier players not wanting to go there so they have make up story's like this in order to deal with the reality of missing out on these players.

[cockypanther]

Originally Posted by USCremedy

http://www.tigernet.com/forums/messa...ageID=13358574

heres the thread.. crazy taters

I find it incredibly hard to read that damn site just for the fact that it so damn hard to navigate and you can only read one post at a time. Makes me even more appreciative of everything we have on Cockytalk.

[markymark550]

If Clowney wanted to go to Clemson, he would be there right now. Even if he didn't meet the regular standards for enrollment (which I've read somewhere that he did meet them), schools make exceptions for athletes all the time. If he was denied at Clemson, then called another coach, that coach (Saban or whoever) would have done all he could to get Clowney. You don't pass up a once in a generation player like Clowney regardless of who you are. This is just Clemson fans being delusional and butthurt.

For other examples of players not meeting academic requirements, look at Duke and Sean Dockery. There was a news story back when he played that pretty much said he couldn't even make it into community college, much less meet NCAA minimum requirements and definitely not Duke requirements. Yet, somehow he was still able to get into the school and play.