The Clowney Hit, and his eyes.

DiamondGamecock · 01-07-2013, 06:32 PM

Yeh, weird thread title. I was in conversation with an Alabama fan this week, and he said that if that RB would have been Richardson, that Clowney would have been the one to get popped.
Now, I had to argue in our favor, because I believe no matter who was back there, they were going to get hit, and HIT HARD.
So I know it is a hypothetical, but, do you believe that same type of hit would have occurred if it was Richardson back there?
I do, and honestly, I believe it didn't matter if the jolly green giant was getting the ball off to him, he was about to get popped.
His eyes were on the ball the entire time.

impirius · 01-07-2013, 06:35 PM

Clowney came through the line untouched and was full bore into the running back before they even completed the handoff. No chance.

GamecockInHell · 01-07-2013, 06:40 PM

When you are his size and with that speed, if you come through the line untouched, it doesn't make any difference who is getting hit.

Cheezy · 01-07-2013, 06:43 PM

Cool, this needed a new thread instead of being discussed in one of the other 57 threads about The Hit. I can't believe it's been 6 days and no one has mentioned that his eyes were following the ball the entire time. Too...much...sarcasm. Must...type slowly...

DiamondGamecock · 01-07-2013, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheezy

Cool, this needed a new thread instead of being discussed in one of the other 57 threads about The Hit. I can't believe it's been 6 days and no one has mentioned that his eyes were following the ball the entire time. Too...much...sarcasm. Must...type slowly...

The thread is mainly about the Alabama fan, and saying if it was an SEC back or Richardson it would not have happened, but thanks for being that way.

ColaCock · 01-07-2013, 07:21 PM

I don't care if Erik Dickerson, Bo Jackson, or Hershel Walker (or all 3 combined) was back there running the ball...the result would have been a plowed RB and pulverizing hit. The fumble depends on the ability of each, maybe.

When a force with that mass is moving so quickly at a nearly stationary object, they are a practice dummy. Whether they are a 150lb or 200lb practice dummy is the only difference.

Your friend is out of his mind.

robert40 · 01-07-2013, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColaCock

I don't care if Erik Dickerson, Bo Jackson, or Hershel Walker (or all 3 combined) was back there running the ball...the result would have been a plowed RB and pulverizing hit. The fumble depends on the ability of each, maybe.

When a force with that mass is moving so quickly at a nearly stationary object, they are a practice dummy. Whether they are a 150lb or 200lb practice dummy is the only difference.

Your friend is out of his mind.

Very well said.

53fan · 01-07-2013, 07:28 PM

THAT hit would dropped Superman!

Rebel4ever · 01-07-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by impirius

Clowney came through the line untouched and was full bore into the running back before they even completed the handoff. No chance.

Yeah, even a RB as big as Richardson would have been leveled being off balance and not set. You could knock down the Hulk if he were off balance and feet not set.

catdaddy66 · 01-07-2013, 07:37 PM

At the moment of the hit the RB was concentrating on the securing the football, not delivering a blow. No RB delivers punishment at that specific moment, so the defender will always have the drop on the RB. Always. Period.

poke · 01-07-2013, 08:11 PM

If Clowney had a twin/clone who was getting that handoff at that same moment in time and Clowney the defender hit said twin/clone - Clowney clone would have been leveled. Timing of the handoff had a lot to do with it an the fact that the RB was kind of a sitting duck....wonderfully so especially since the RB had speared Clowney in the balls prior in the game. Ray Lewis would've gone to the turf is he was the RB.....

ColaCock · 01-07-2013, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poke

If Clowney had a twin/clone who was getting that handoff at that same moment in time and Clowney the defender hit said twin/clone - Clowney clone would have been leveled. Timing of the handoff had a lot to do with it an the fact that the RB was kind of a sitting duck....wonderfully so especially since the RB had speared Clowney in the balls prior in the game. Ray Lewis would've gone to the turf is he was the RB.....

Hmm. This is a special circumstance...the universe may have imploded upon itself.

Sax1031 · 01-07-2013, 10:37 PM

yea right. NO rb expects a linemen to meet them 8 yards behind the line at full steam.

it wouldn't have been as violent but it still would have separated him from the ball.

rolinb1 · 01-07-2013, 10:40 PM

Player of the year woohooo...announced during BCS game

PeeCock · 01-07-2013, 10:43 PM

PROOF: Remember that hit Sheldon Brown put on Reggie Bush? Same thing. Running back's attention diverted elsewhere and the defender coming in full bore!

igotmycockcloth · 01-07-2013, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poke

If Clowney had a twin/clone who was getting that handoff at that same moment in time and Clowney the defender hit said twin/clone - Clowney clone would have been leveled. Timing of the handoff had a lot to do with it an the fact that the RB was kind of a sitting duck....wonderfully so especially since the RB had speared Clowney in the balls prior in the game. Ray Lewis would've gone to the turf is he was the RB.....

This is false. The power generated by the Clowney and Clowney Clone hit would exert a force that would level the stadium and create a 10 mile high mushroom cloud that would deem the sorrounding 15 miles unsafe for human occupation.

Gamecock1983 · 01-07-2013, 10:53 PM

No RB would have had a chance unless they chose to avoid the hit by not taking the handoff. There was no time to respond at all. Half of a step quicker and JD would have taken the handoff from the QB.

The only way the outcome is different is if the RB sees him coming and says "Nope...I'm not touching that football."

Sax1031 · 01-07-2013, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamecock1983

No RB would have had a chance unless they chose to avoid the hit by not taking the handoff. There was no time to respond at all. Half of a step quicker and JD would have taken the handoff from the QB.

The only way the outcome is different is if the RB sees him coming and says "Nope...I'm not touching that football."

true story

cockyness11 · 01-07-2013, 11:23 PM

I have always liked Richardson n he is a beast, but he is all of 5'9 225 and JC is 6'4 240!!! On top of that, JC was running full speed during that hit.. No way in hell Richardson would of absorbed that hit any better then the Michigan rb did.. It is common sense.. Not being a homer just realist..

impirius · 01-08-2013, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poke

If Clowney had a twin/clone who was getting that handoff at that same moment in time and Clowney the defender hit said twin/clone - Clowney clone would have been leveled.

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01-07-2013, 06:32 PM	#1
DiamondGamecock Banned Male Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Columbia Posts: 1,055 CockyCash: 600	The Clowney Hit, and his eyes. Yeh, weird thread title. I was in conversation with an Alabama fan this week, and he said that if that RB would have been Richardson, that Clowney would have been the one to get popped. Now, I had to argue in our favor, because I believe no matter who was back there, they were going to get hit, and HIT HARD. So I know it is a hypothetical, but, do you believe that same type of hit would have occurred if it was Richardson back there? I do, and honestly, I believe it didn't matter if the jolly green giant was getting the ball off to him, he was about to get popped. His eyes were on the ball the entire time.

01-07-2013, 06:35 PM	#2
impirius Galactic Overlord Male Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 940 CockyCash: 500	Re: The Clowney Hit, and his eyes. Clowney came through the line untouched and was full bore into the running back before they even completed the handoff. No chance. __________________ .

01-07-2013, 06:40 PM	#3
GamecockInHell Bowl MVP Male Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Hephzibah, Ga Posts: 2,463 CockyCash: 3754	Re: The Clowney Hit, and his eyes. When you are his size and with that speed, if you come through the line untouched, it doesn't make any difference who is getting hit.

01-07-2013, 06:43 PM	#4
Cheezy alot is NOT a word Male Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Columbia Posts: 2,901 CockyCash: 1001240	Re: The Clowney Hit, and his eyes. Cool, this needed a new thread instead of being discussed in one of the other 57 threads about The Hit. I can't believe it's been 6 days and no one has mentioned that his eyes were following the ball the entire time. Too...much...sarcasm. Must...type slowly... __________________ http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.co...verything.html Alot is not a word. Ever.

01-07-2013, 07:21 PM	#6
ColaCock Heisman Candidate Male Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,355 CockyCash: 200	Re: The Clowney Hit, and his eyes. I don't care if Erik Dickerson, Bo Jackson, or Hershel Walker (or all 3 combined) was back there running the ball...the result would have been a plowed RB and pulverizing hit. The fumble depends on the ability of each, maybe. When a force with that mass is moving so quickly at a nearly stationary object, they are a practice dummy. Whether they are a 150lb or 200lb practice dummy is the only difference. Your friend is out of his mind. __________________

01-07-2013, 07:28 PM	#8
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01-07-2013, 07:37 PM	#10
catdaddy66 Former Walk On in-law Male Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Lugoff, SC Posts: 3,086 CockyCash: 397	Re: The Clowney Hit, and his eyes. At the moment of the hit the RB was concentrating on the securing the football, not delivering a blow. No RB delivers punishment at that specific moment, so the defender will always have the drop on the RB. Always. Period. __________________

01-07-2013, 08:11 PM	#11
poke 4-Star Male Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 350 CockyCash: 500	Re: The Clowney Hit, and his eyes. If Clowney had a twin/clone who was getting that handoff at that same moment in time and Clowney the defender hit said twin/clone - Clowney clone would have been leveled. Timing of the handoff had a lot to do with it an the fact that the RB was kind of a sitting duck....wonderfully so especially since the RB had speared Clowney in the balls prior in the game. Ray Lewis would've gone to the turf is he was the RB.....

01-07-2013, 10:37 PM	#13
Sax1031 Blue Chip Male Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Columbia,SC Posts: 581 CockyCash: 500	Re: The Clowney Hit, and his eyes. yea right. NO rb expects a linemen to meet them 8 yards behind the line at full steam. it wouldn't have been as violent but it still would have separated him from the ball.

01-07-2013, 10:40 PM	#14
rolinb1 Two Deep Male Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate, SC Posts: 1,069 CockyCash: 1000750	Re: The Clowney Hit, and his eyes. Player of the year woohooo...announced during BCS game __________________

01-07-2013, 10:43 PM	#15
PeeCock Walk On Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 98 CockyCash: 540	Re: The Clowney Hit, and his eyes. PROOF: Remember that hit Sheldon Brown put on Reggie Bush? Same thing. Running back's attention diverted elsewhere and the defender coming in full bore!

01-07-2013, 10:53 PM	#17
Gamecock1983 So Cocky. Male Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 621 CockyCash: 7508	Re: The Clowney Hit, and his eyes. No RB would have had a chance unless they chose to avoid the hit by not taking the handoff. There was no time to respond at all. Half of a step quicker and JD would have taken the handoff from the QB. The only way the outcome is different is if the RB sees him coming and says "Nope...I'm not touching that football." __________________ www.garnetandcocky.com

01-07-2013, 11:23 PM	#19
cockyness11 4-Star Male Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: irmo south carolina Posts: 292 CockyCash: 500	Re: The Clowney Hit, and his eyes. I have always liked Richardson n he is a beast, but he is all of 5'9 225 and JC is 6'4 240!!! On top of that, JC was running full speed during that hit.. No way in hell Richardson would of absorbed that hit any better then the Michigan rb did.. It is common sense.. Not being a homer just realist..

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