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Old 01-29-2013, 02:04 PM   #1
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Default Which football program mirrors ours?

The craziness in the Lawing thread made me think of reviving this old topic. Surely there will be some venom created by this thread, and perhaps some aimed at me for (gasp) asking such a question.

So, with or without your garnet goggles, tell us what football program closely mirrors our own, and why.

Some things you might consider:
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  • Media Perception
  • Perception to Recruits
  • Program Value

In my mind, ancient history holds little water in this debate unless one is referring to national titles. Duke, Army, and Navy all have rich history from way back. I'd rather see a current example of other programs on our level.

Have at it!

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Old 01-29-2013, 02:09 PM   #2
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Default Re: Which football program mirrors ours?

This is pretty difficult to answer.


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Default Re: Which football program mirrors ours?

One that comes to mind for me is Michigan State.
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Default Re: Which football program mirrors ours?

That's a tough question, maybe TCU? I know there are plenty of holes in that one but the last 3-4 years our win totals are very close, both have a high profile coach.
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Default Re: Which football program mirrors ours?

I would say Oregon!!! A program on the rise, but just can't get over that last hurdle!!We both had 1 or 2 hiccups the last couple of seasons and it cost both of us in the end!! The only difference is they have the high power Offense who keeps them winning games and we have a very stingy deffense who keeps us in alot of games for us too win!!!
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One that comes to mind for me is Michigan State.
That's a good answer too.
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Default Re: Which football program mirrors ours?

I can't say MSU because they have national Titles.
If I'm going to compare its someone that doesn't have any.

Also the perception of their program outside of the state is "oh the other school in Michigan"
While for us it's not that much larger but it's been better with the recent success.
I also believe out of the state the gap isn't that wide in terms of perception to the Rivalry because the other in state school is not a juggernaut like Michigan is.
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Old 01-29-2013, 02:22 PM   #8
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Default Re: Which football program mirrors ours?

First one that came to mind for me was Michigan State too.
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Default Re: Which football program mirrors ours?

Past few years I would say Stanford.

Record-wise they are about the same as us the past couple of years. Plus they are they closest thing resembling a SEC program in the PAC-12
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Old 01-29-2013, 02:32 PM   #10
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Default Re: Which football program mirrors ours?

What makes this hard for me is that basically we are historically mediocre at best but at times simple horrible (in the not too distant past) but are currently on the rise. However, during all that time there was such passion it's hard to think of USC as a 500 team. Plus, what other team could pull Holtz and Spurrier without having a historically winning program? On paper you could compare us to teams like Rutgers but in my mind it's more like Ole Miss or Mich St.
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Default Re: Which football program mirrors ours?

I'd go with Stanford as well


it's not a carbon-copy obviously, but they're the one that comes to mind initially, for me.
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The craziness in the Lawing thread made me think of reviving this old topic. Surely there will be some venom created by this thread, and perhaps some aimed at me for (gasp) asking such a question.

So, with or without your garnet goggles, tell us what football program closely mirrors our own, and why.

Some things you might consider:
  • Head Coach
  • Current State of Program
  • Championships
  • Recruiting Base
  • Home State
  • Media Perception
  • Perception to Recruits
  • Program Value
In my mind, ancient history holds little water in this debate unless one is referring to national titles. Duke, Army, and Navy all have rich history from way back. I'd rather see a current example of other programs on our level.

Have at it!

N.C. State

No school in the country really mirrors USC but N.C. State in recent years is close.

They just got a new coach so we do not match there.

The current state of the program and recent history is closer.

Championships, assuming we are talking NCs, are the same.

Recruiting Base - about the same but USC is better most years.

Home State - about the same

Media Perception - this used to be very close but in the last two year we have become a better play for the prognosticators.

Perception to Recruits - recruits that grew up around the programs are more likely to give these particular programs a look than recruits a couple of states over.

Program Value - USC - not close
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Default Re: Which football program mirrors ours?

Arky came to my mind. Oregon kinda. Va. Tech maybe
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I wouldn't say Oregon because their team isn't a majority of home grown kids.
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I wouldn't say Oregon because they're team isn't a majority of zhome grown kids.
Ours team is
And they have played in four bcs bowls recently.
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Arkansas, IMO.

When they had elite talent, they were fantastic. When they had good coaching, they were very competive and great. When they had poor coaching, they struggled.
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And they have played in four bcs bowls recently.
And played in a National Title...and have a mega booster building the program.

So in actuality, they are nothing like us.

I'd say we most likely resemble Alabama.
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Arky.
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