Stephon Gilmore vs Ryan Succop

[johnnyb]

Welcome to the

Cockytalk Favorite Player (2000 and current) Round 1 part 1

Use this thread to make your argument for who is your favorite player between Stephon Gilmore and Ryan Succop

[RMCUSC]

man, they both had a bad draw.

[rosstheboss]

tough decision...succop should have kicked it higher in the swamp in 2006 so i'll vote gilmore.

[SpecOps Cock]

Johnny i get your a admin and dont want to offend you but at least while doing these pair players that compare. Stephon Gilmore to Ko Simpson , Adam Yates to Ryan Succop, Along those lines .

[ShutTheSuccop]

Originally Posted by rosstheboss

tough decision...succop should have kicked it higher in the swamp in 2006 so i'll vote gilmore.

Or maybe the OL could have blocked Jarvis Moss...succop is probably the best kicker that we have ever had and potentially will ever have. I think Gilmore was fantastic but I could not vote for him over an all time great at a position..this one is almost like the SNL bears vs bulls

[johnnyb]

Originally Posted by SpecOps Cock

Johnny i get your a admin and dont want to offend you but at least while doing these pair players that compare. Stephon Gilmore to Ko Simpson , Adam Yates to Ryan Succop, Along those lines .

I understand that, however I was working with who was nominated, succop was the only kicker nominated...also I did the pairings based on number of nominations

Originally Posted by johnnyb

I paired them up by number of nominations, the player with the most nominations gets a bye the first round (odd number of players nominated) the first part (of the first round) I posted today, includes all of the players nominated once and one player nominated twice (dimarco). second part of the first round (which I will post once this portion is over) will include all players (with the exception of Lattimore (bye) and Dimarco) with multiple nominations, they will be paired strongest (most nominations) to weakest (fewest)

I may make it double elimination after the first round, just depends on how froggy I feel!

[Spurticus]

WOW ...tough choice in this matchup.
I voted for Succop though. Ryan was solid for four seasons. Stephon was
never as good through his Soph and Junior years as he was as a freshman.
I put the blame there on Ellis Johnson as the DC and Ward as the secondary
coach. Their schemes were too complex, and they had too many chiefs
trying to lead the indians. in Stephon's final year, over half way through it,
they decided to simplify the schemes and Gilmore finished strong. It should
have been that way for three seasons, but it wasn't, and Gilmore suffered
for it.

Ryan won games for us that we would have lost without him on the roster.
He got my vote for that reason

[LegalCock]

I can't vote for a kicker. He was a realy weapon, but he was still a kicker.

[Gamecock_girl_west]

Gotta go with Succop. He was clutch in so many games, and really represented the school well- still does. Gilmore was more hype than anything else. Maybe it was the schemes, but I just remember him getting beat or getting dumb penalties on plays that would have been drive killers.

Plus, Succop is one of the few kickers to get drafted- that alone has to say something.

[gripitandripit2007]

Dang...this is the toughest one...wanted to vote for both of them...I voted Gilmore b/c he came through in the clutch more times seemed like...Succop let me down quite a few times when we needed him most but was still probably the best kicker we have ever had in the garnet and black

[SpecOps Cock]

Ok Johnny i understand now why. I didnt read the pairing process early my apologies.

[johnnyb]

Originally Posted by SpecOps Cock

Ok Johnny i understand now why. I didnt read the pairing process early my apologies.

no problem man, I had just posted it in another thread...was gonna post it in all the ops but decided not to, guess I will next portion!

[WE_ARE]

This is a tough one.

[GamecockInHell]

Succop was MR. Consistent but I voted Gilmore because he started the string of Mr. Football coming here and that helped get Marcus and Clowney.

[hellraiser24]

This is the toughest poll decision ever on Cockytalk I have experienced. I really don't know who to go with.

Might have to go with Succop because he was the best kicker we have ever had here.

[lilhornet]

Gilmore, arguably the biggest building block we've had beside since Spurrier has been here.

[imabeastonu]

gilmore from my hometown...

[Go Carolina]

Not fair to Succop. He's at the top of my list. But Gilmore truly got that instate ball rolling as far as recruiting. Spurrier was literally contemplating retiring after that Outback Bowl and so Gilmore gets a lot of intangible points from me for that.

[AikenRooster]

Gilmore was the first high profile, highly recruited. Mr. football to stay home, and made it cool for Lattimore, Clowney, etc. to stay as well.
I can't vote for a kicker, anyway, not to be rude.
Plus,that blocked FG, against Florida, in 2006, almost made me cry.

[ColaCock]

I'm sorry, but while I do like Gilmore...he was always the most suspect DB on the field and if someone got toasted, you were almost sure to see #5 looking upfield. However, he had all the other tangibles to be able to play the position and excel at the next level. Just gave up the big play more than I would like.