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Old 01-03-2014, 12:34 AM   #1
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Default USC becoming a TRUE great program!

We're all having a bittersweet day. Realize another 11 win year, 42 wins in 4 years. But, we're losing some super players. Shaw, Clowney, probably Ellington.

But, remember this. In 2010, when we won our only SEC East title......Clowney and Ellington were in high school. Shaw was an unknown bench player.

We have seen and said goodbye to Eric Norwood. Alshon. Ace. Melvin Ingram. Cliff Matthews. Lattimore. Gilmore.

And we were all worried and didn't know how we would replace them.

But USC did. And the next guy just stepped up.

Just like they do at places like Georgia and Bama and Oklahoma and Ohio State.

Don't look now...but USC is becoming one of those type programs. Kinda cool, and fun, huh?
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Old 01-03-2014, 12:41 AM   #2
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Great team vs great program. Great teams come and go. Great programs reload. I think USC is becoming that type program. No reason we cant have the same steady success a team like VA Tech has.
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Old 01-03-2014, 12:43 AM   #3
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I agree, we are getting there.
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Old 01-03-2014, 12:45 AM   #4
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We are getting there but it's about to get a lot harder to get to the National Championship game.
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Default Re: USC becoming a TRUE great program!

The wins are obviously there, but without a BCS appearance it's tough to definitely say that.
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Default Re: USC becoming a TRUE great program!

Or easier...

Just have to finish top 4 now. USC is in the SEC, so the best team will probably be from the SEC.

If USC can win the SEC, they'll be one of the best 4 by far. If they make it to Atlanta, lose, but still finish top 4, they'll get a rematch.

I think USC's chances actually improve with the playoff. Our program seems to get better as the season goes on, and peaks in the bowl.

If USC had 1 more game right now, vs Michigan State or Auburn, I think we'd win.
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Maybe. But although they aren't in the BCS, USC is beating BCS teams.

Beat 2 of them this year- UCF and Clemson.

As long as we are beating BCS caliber teams, the program can assume it has the talent.

Just need a couple more breaks.
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Old 01-03-2014, 12:50 AM   #8
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It will also be easier to be in the BCS level bowls. (Sugar, orange,etc) not sure what they will be called but the ones that will be in the rotation
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We will win a national championship if they expand it to 8 teams in the next few. It's going to be a bitch to be in the top 4 as a conference championship.
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Old 01-03-2014, 12:54 AM   #10
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Or easier...

Just have to finish top 4 now. USC is in the SEC, so the best team will probably be from the SEC.

If USC can win the SEC, they'll be one of the best 4 by far. If they make it to Atlanta, lose, but still finish top 4, they'll get a rematch.

I think USC's chances actually improve with the playoff. Our program seems to get better as the season goes on, and peaks in the bowl.

If USC had 1 more game right now, vs Michigan State or Auburn, I think we'd win.


It get's a lot easier for teams with quality strength of schedule. That's what the NCAA wants you to believe at least. Supposedly the 4 teams that will compete in the playoff will be selected by a selection committee.

This selection committee includes:



Supposedly, strength of schedule will be a crucial factor when considering the 4 teams. However, I don't beleive it will.

I will believe it when I see it. You can't sit here and tell me that if Ohio State goes undefeated with a SoS outside the top 80 that you won't see them in the play off (given there are other teams with 1 or 2 losses with SoS inside top 30).

You also can't tell me that these schools with AD's on the committee will be perfect unbias. Yeah, I will believe it when I see it too. You also can't tell me that they won't be bias towards their conference. Money is going to be involved. More money towards your conference = More money towards your school.

This playoff committee has problems already.
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We're a top ten program right now. The last three years prove that. That said, to be a TRUE great program, we have to win the SEC. 11-2 and a top ten finish three straight years is great, but to truly put us in a discussion amongst the elite, we need to win the conference. I love that we've become extremely consistent, but it's time to take the next step.
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We're a top ten program right now. The last three years prove that. That said, to be a TRUE great program, we have to win the SEC. 11-2 and a top ten finish three straight years is great, but to truly put us in a discussion amongst the elite, we need to win the conference. I love that we've become extremely consistent, but it's time to take the next step.
Exactly. Winning 11 games every year, but not the SEC is great and all for this program, but eventually people will take notice that we cannot finish the job and win the SEC.

Georgia has this problem right now too. They've been in the hunt for the SEC yearly now and they too can't break through and win it.
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Its a shame, too, because I really think if USC was in any of the other conferences- ACC, Big10, Big12, Pac12, AAU/Big East.....they would have won one by now.
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its a COMPLETE conflict of interest to have acting college AD's, or ANY acting college personnel for that matter, on this committee.
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its a COMPLETE conflict of interest to have acting college AD's, or ANY acting college personnel for that matter, on this committee.
Exactly. You're going to tell me if Arkansas is ranked 6th over all that Jeff Long is going to be unbias in wanting them in the playoff? Or if Nebraska is in the top 10 that Osborne isn't going to be bias towards Nebraska?

Come on, man!

Someone needs to make an algorithm that ranks teams based on home wins/loses and away wins/loses, and strength of schedule. All those factors need to be included. All 123 schedules need to be ranked.
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It will be harder to win a national title now. There will be so much bias with the selection crew they have hired.

The NCAA will have to expand the playoffs to eight. The goal should not be to limit controversy. The goal should be to give the best teams in college football a opportunity to win a national championship. Eight slots would be enough to accomplish that most years.
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Maybe. But although they aren't in the BCS, USC is beating BCS teams.

Beat 2 of them this year- UCF and Clemson.

As long as we are beating BCS caliber teams, the program can assume it has the talent.

Just need a couple more breaks.
I know ucf won and all, yada yada yada. But I'm sorry, I still don't consider either of these teams bcs caliber.

We also lost to the worst team in the sec. Time to quit 'assuming' and take care of teams that we are suppose to beat!
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It will be harder to win a national title now. There will be so much bias with the selection crew they have hired.

The NCAA will have to expand the playoffs to eight. The goal should not be to limit controversy. The goal should be to give the best teams in college football a opportunity to win a national championship. Eight slots would be enough to accomplish that most years.
The NCAA needs to man up and either do the college football playoff like the NFL, or the FCS. They are so worried about money. They need to worry about the integrity of the playoff system first then the money later. All top 10 teams are AQ - and all conference winners of the PAC-12, Big 10, Big 12, SEC, ACC are AQ's too (obviously this is 15 teams, and this would be for the FCS playoff).
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With leauge championship games factored in, it IS at a defacto 8 team playoff.
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The NCAA needs to man up and either do the college football playoff like the NFL, or the FCS. They are so worried about money. They need to worry about the integrity of the playoff system first then the money later. All top 10 teams are AQ - and all conference winners of the PAC-12, Big 10, Big 12, SEC, ACC are AQ's too.
This. I've been saying this for the longest time. If it works so well for fcs, why not for FBS
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