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Old 02-06-2014, 11:29 AM   #1
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Was just curious. I've noticed a lot of teams have about 4-6 guys committed for 2014, already enrolled. Clemson has a handful and Tenn also had quite a few. I know we had Lamin enroll early, but is that something our coaches dont push for? Or was this just a year where we didn't have guys who could enroll early? Would have loved to have had a couple db's enroll in Jan.
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Was just curious. I've noticed a lot of teams have about 4-6 guys committed for 2014, already enrolled. Clemson has a handful and Tenn also had quite a few. I know we had Lamin enroll early, but is that something our coaches dont push for? Or was this just a year where we didn't have guys who could enroll early? Would have loved to have had a couple db's enroll in Jan.
We had 14 which is just insane.

It is something that is starting to become very popular the past 2 years. I bet you see your coaches start pushing for it as much as possible.
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We had 14 which is just insane.

It is something that is starting to become very popular the past 2 years. I bet you see your coaches start pushing for it as much as possible.

Yeah that is crazy and I hope you're right.
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We've done it before (did it with Garcia).
I think our coaches encourage JUCO and prep school guys to do it, but I think they want our HS seniors to experience their entire SR year.

I think Connor Mitch also enrolled early.

I also think it is typically QBs that do that...no reason for a HS SR Olinemen to enroll early since the will probably RS anyway...same with defensive guys.
Mostly for guys that are a lock to play day 1, and I don't think this class has any day 1 locks...a lot of guys that will compete for playing time, but I think most of this class is going to RS.
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just depends on which recruits are academically able to graduate early some high schools don't allow it to start with.
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of course one of the reasons for EE is so they can go through spring practice especially for JUCO.....the other reason is that it allows a school to count them back to the previous year and therefore take a larger class the next next, which is what UT has done.....but those players still count against the hard cap of 85, and having an unusually large class one year creates problems down the road because that will force them to reduce their classes in the future. So if they're wrong on a bunch of this year's class, it going to kill them down the road.
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We've done it before (did it with Garcia).
I think our coaches encourage JUCO and prep school guys to do it, but I think they want our HS seniors to experience their entire SR year.

I think Connor Mitch also enrolled early.

I also think it is typically QBs that do that...no reason for a HS SR Olinemen to enroll early since the will probably RS anyway...same with defensive guys.
Mostly for guys that are a lock to play day 1, and I don't think this class has any day 1 locks...a lot of guys that will compete for playing time, but I think most of this class is going to RS.

I see what you're saying, but I think it's always a positive thing to get guys in as early as possible. That way they are already practicing with the team, learning the system and working out with the strength coaches. I just saw Bama had 8 guys enroll early. Seems like a big advantage to get these guys in asap.
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I see what you're saying, but I think it's always a positive thing to get guys in as early as possible. That way they are already practicing with the team, learning the system and working out with the strength coaches. I just saw Bama had 8 guys enroll early. Seems like a big advantage to get these guys in asap.
It is an advantage, but not every recruit can graduate early. I think we do this as often as we can with recruits we want. We are not just going to take a recruit because early enrollment is an option. From my understanding the counting back of early enrollees to the previous class cannot exceed the 25 LOI limit. Is this not correct? Seems like some teams are going beyond that...
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It is an advantage, but not every recruit can graduate early. I think we do this as often as we can with recruits we want. We are not just going to take a recruit because early enrollment is an option. From my understanding the counting back of early enrollees to the previous class cannot exceed the 25 LOI limit. Is this not correct? Seems like some teams are going beyond that...
I think it's an option to countback. So if USC's whole 2015 class is EE and USC recruited 21 this year -1 EE, than 5 of those signee's for 2015 can be counted back to the 2014 class. So USC could take 30 recruits next year, but as others have said if you do things like this, and you don't have that many seniors or Juniors getting drafted. There will be some years you will have to take a small class, so you don't exceed the 85 player scholarship limits. UT will probably face that problem in a couple of years. Watch for Ut's 2016 class to be small if players don't transfer, or have their scholarship taken away.
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I fully agree with you.
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It's just not the usual situation. Most recruits need to finish their last semester of highschool before they can qualify for college. Most recruits want to enjoy the rest of their senior year. JUCO guys usually EE which makes me worried about Thomas not being able to qualify by the end of the year. Also, didn't really have any pressing need this year for countbacks since we couldn't really since a huge class this time.
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It's just not the usual situation. Most recruits need to finish their last semester of highschool before they can qualify for college. Most recruits want to enjoy the rest of their senior year. JUCO guys usually EE which makes me worried about Thomas not being able to qualify by the end of the year. Also, didn't really have any pressing need this year for countbacks since we couldn't really since a huge class this time.

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath for Thomas. But really hope he will make it in.
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