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Through year 1 our JUCO track record is pretty strong, we'll see how we do year 2 with the JUCO contributions.
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What are you basing this off of?
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And for the record -- a quick glance at our 2018 offer list shows we have offered 6 JUCO/prep guys out of 160+ offers.

Yep -- going real heavy on the JUCO guys.

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His ass seems to inform him quite often. I remember close to NSD he was singing gloom and doom, turned out alright.
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And for the record -- a quick glance at our 2018 offer list shows we have offered 6 JUCO/prep guys out of 160+ offers.

Yep -- going real heavy on the JUCO guys.

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count 12 offers from 2017 with 5 signees. roughly 20% of the class. already have 6 offers out with a year to go. there will be more offers to Juco's as we miss out on top targets. 2 juco offers to DT's is troubling as well. Makes me think we are gonna miss out on our targets there as well.
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His ass seems to inform him quite often. I remember close to NSD he was singing gloom and doom, turned out alright.
Why you guys like talking about my ass?
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count 12 offers from 2017 with 5 signees. roughly 20% of the class. already have 6 offers out with a year to go. there will be more offers to Juco's as we miss out on top targets. 2 juco offers to DT's is troubling as well. Makes me think we are gonna miss out on our targets there as well.
You do realize an offer doesn't mean we automatically accept a commitment right? Even if their commits are accepted, our DL needs immediate improvement which is why you take JUCO players. That said I think we may take 1 interior JUCO DL at most depending on some of the stud HS players we're going after.
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You do realize an offer doesn't mean we automatically accept a commitment right? Even if their commits are accepted, our DL needs immediate improvement which is why you take JUCO players. That said I think we may take 1 interior JUCO DL at most depending on some of the stud HS players we're going after.
Here's my take, BAMA has 4 Juco offers out, and 1 commit from a Juco, they have won most of the National Titles the past 9 years. I think that is enough proof to shut up any riff raff about JUCO offers.
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His ass seems to inform him quite often. I remember close to NSD he was singing gloom and doom, turned out alright.
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Here's my take, BAMA has 4 Juco offers out, and 1 commit from a Juco, they have won most of the National Titles the past 9 years. I think that is enough proof to shut up any riff raff about JUCO offers.
Muschamp is no Nick Saban.
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You do realize that Nick Saban is the best coach in college football and he still recruits JUCO players even with the most loaded roster in the sport, right?
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And Nick Saban wasn't always Nick Saban. Some coaches only need the right job at the right program to shine. Muschamp has found his. Carolina is where he'll build his legacy.
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Everyone knows that, they aren't the same person. Point is if the best college coach is recruiting Juco's, then there should be no issues going after Juco's, or consider them a waste of time. It's this simple, and sorry if you fail to understand it, if the player can play the position, it doesn't matter if they come from planet Omicron Persei 8.
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Apparently we are going heavy JUCO again this recruiting season
I hope we get him and many more Juco's.
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Here's my take, BAMA has 4 Juco offers out, and 1 commit from a Juco, they have won most of the National Titles the past 9 years. I think that is enough proof to shut up any riff raff about JUCO offers.
If we are going to be successful, we need to look at JUCOs every year. The percentage of FBS caliber players that go JUCO would be very difficult to tie down, but I would guess it would be around 10% for the state of South Carolina. So if you want to compete but ignore 10% of the available talent, that is very dumb.

We left the ACC, in large part, because they required an SAT score 50 points higher than the NCAA standard. We lost some of our best players to out of state schools like UGA as a result, and were at a competitive disadvantage. We are essentially doing the same thing if we ignore JUCOs now.

Ten percent of our roster is 8 - 9 players - we may be above that initially due to immediate needs, but I expect that we will continue to get 1-4 most years and have 7-10 overall.

Oh - and they do not tie up a scholarship for 4-5 years, and most HS players do not contribute for a year or two anyway. And they fill needs immediately, or at least much more than a HS Senior, because they have been playing for two years.

Guys like Sawyer and Kinlaw are even better - 4 years to play 3, you get the equivalent of their RS/back-up year out of the way and get them for 3 years, even if they get hurt and have to Redshirt. Win-win.
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Muschamp seems serious about "roster building". It's obvious we need higher quality starters, which transfers that we don't have quality depth either. He's got to have both to win at a high level. I can't tell you how many games I've watched from the stands where our starting 22 played toe to toe with UGA or UT only to be beaten by their depth in the 4th quarter. If bringing in Juco's for starters or depth gives us 4th quarter performance, do it. If it provides a couple years for young talent to mature, do it. It's not just about the starters, it's about the whole roster.
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And Nick Saban wasn't always Nick Saban. Some coaches only need the right job at the right program to shine. Muschamp has found his. Carolina is where he'll build his legacy.
This is your opinion which you are entitled to have. I won't belittle you because I disagree like so many others here. As for me I have seen nothing from Muschamp, to this point, that makes me think your opinion is correct. Yes we won 6 games this year, but that in my opinion was no "real" accomplishment. With our schedule last year, and competent coach could have done that.
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