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Old 10-06-2018, 05:33 PM   #1
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Default Who Starts at QB Now?

Welcome to the biggest discussion question for at least the next 7 days on CockyTalk....

Things to consider:

- Would Bentley have carried our team to a win today?

- Did Scar benefit a lot from other teams not having any tape of him, and if so, will he regress in the future when defense plan for him?

- who makes better/quicker decisions?

- who is more clutch?

- does Bentley get the benefit of the doubt given his fathers position on the coaching staff and his experience?

- will fans overhype Scar and put way too much faith in that he'll be a consistent QB?
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Default Re: Who Starts at QB Now?

Jake Bentley is a better QB in just about every respect. Missouri has the 85th best defense in the country. Whoever started was going to look good against them. Jake would have thrown for 300 and we would've won by another 10-15 points.
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Default Bentley or Scarnecchia ?

This will be the question in a lot of threads this week. What are your thoughts?

Bentley should get the next start as you never lose your position due to injury, but there were a few things I saw from Scarnecchia that I liked.

Composure. When things were going well he wasn’t sprinting down the field going crazy and then sulking when it wasn’t going his way. I think he’s a 6th year senior, and his maturity definitely showed.

Knowledge. He understands the offense and knows where to go with the ball. Goes thru his reads, can look off a safety, makes his mind up and let’s it go. Most importantly he isn’t shaky in the pocket. Jake feels pressure that isn’t there sometimes, forcing him to throw off his back foot or fall out of passes.

The coaches didn’t open the playbook TOO much, and I think that would actually help Jake as well. The fans get tired of all the runs, and it’s annoying when it’s not working; but you also don’t want to put all the pressure on your QB. If the run game keeps struggling we should see a wildcat package. Dowdle was a high school dual threat QB and would be great in the wildcat. Joyner gives you the threat to pass though.

To sum it up we saw a mature QB today. He didn’t try to win it by himself or do too much. He was composed and even keeled. He put the ball in the right spot. Led the receivers so they could run after the catch and didn’t have you holding your breathe each time he dropped back. Now, Bentley playednhis worst game as a gamecock last week. This could’ve been a bounce back week for him. Next week he might play great, but it’s safe to say that if he starts showing signs that we have a viable backup. The leash needs to be shorter.
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Default Re: Who Starts at QB Now?

Scarnecchia benefited from having receivers actually step up and make catches at big times.


Bentley is still the guy
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Jake Bentley is a better QB in just about every respect. Missouri has the 85th best defense in the country. Whoever started was going to look good against them. Jake would have thrown for 300 and we would've won by another 10-15 points.
I understand the perspective

At the same time, there's something to be said about how Scar was consistent when nobody else was. Mizzou's gameplan was to make Scar win it - that's why they stacked the box every single play. They shut down our run game and pressured Scar more than Bentley has been pressured all year. And Scar was still dropping dimes under that pressure.

Going into that final drive with 1 minute to go, I found myself confident that our offense was going to move the ball. Against Kentucky or UGA, there were multiple opportunities Jake had to lead our offense to tie the game, shift momentum, or even take the lead, and I only saw bad incompletions and interceptions from him in those moments.

We were constantly fighting in this game, and every time that Mizzou had us on our heels, I saw Scar step up when he needed to throw a pass. Nothing he could've done about us running the ball so much and the drops, but he was incredibly consistent, especially when it was clutch time.
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Scarnecchia benefited from having receivers actually step up and make catches at big times.


Bentley is still the guy
Like who? I remember Edwards dropping two balls that ended drives, Deebo dropped one.

Two of our top 4 receivers were hurt today, and as a result we weren't in usual full force with them. I found that Scar was accurate and put balls only where receivers could catch them. There were zero acrobatic catches.
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Default Re: Bentley or Scarnecchia ?

Bentley. We ran a very conservative offense today against a defense that isn't exactly a world beater. I loved what Scar did and if Jake has a very slow start again I wouldn't be opposed to benching him but Bentley happens to be 14-2 against unranked opponents, it's foolish to think with him starting we lose this game. Scar exceeded my expectations dramatically though, props to him for coming through in the clutch.
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Well Jake was losing the starting job all by himself he did not get his injury until the very end of the game last week. I am sure Bentley will still be the starter because if they were ever going to pull him they would have done it by now. However I am positive that this will make me question our coaching staff.
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Scar was accurate, composed and looked off receivers.
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I understand the perspective

At the same time, there's something to be said about how Scar was consistent when nobody else was. Mizzou's gameplan was to make Scar win it - that's why they stacked the box every single play. They shut down our run game and pressured Scar more than Bentley has been pressured all year. And Scar was still dropping dimes under that pressure.

Going into that final drive with 1 minute to go, I found myself confident that our offense was going to move the ball. Against Kentucky or UGA, there were multiple opportunities Jake had to lead our offense to tie the game, shift momentum, or even take the lead, and I only saw bad incompletions and interceptions from him in those moments.

We were constantly fighting in this game, and every time that Mizzou had us on our heels, I saw Scar step up when he needed to throw a pass. Nothing he could've done about us running the ball so much and the drops, but he was incredibly consistent, especially when it was clutch time.
SCAR LITERALLY THREW THE BALL INTO A DEFENDER'S HANDS ON HIS LAST PLAY OF THE GAME.
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Bentley. We ran a very conservative offense today against a defense that isn't exactly a world beater. I loved what Scar did and if Jake has a very slow start again I wouldn't be opposed to benching him but Bentley happens to be 14-2 against unranked opponents, it's foolish to think with him starting we lose this game. Scar exceeded my expectations dramatically though, props to him for coming through in the clutch.
Remember when Williams Brice intimidated opponents? Scar has never lost at home! Jake doesn't get this because he has never been actually challenged by backups that have forced him to care. Also if it was truly limited plays today that is because how much time has any other QB had first team reps since Bentley showed up? If Scar had been given a chance who knows where we might be offensively.
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All I got to say is screw this "you never lose your position due to injury" assumption. The best person should play, regardless of how that comes about.
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Scar was accurate, composed and looked off receivers.
He looked off a receiver once on a play that was designed to be misdirection.

He threw a ball 3 times directly into a defender and they dropped it.
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Bentley with a short leash.
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Remember when Williams Brice intimidated opponents? Scar has never lost at home! Jake doesn't get this because he has never been actually challenged by backups that have forced him to care. Also if it was truly limited plays today that is because how much time has any other QB had first team reps since Bentley showed up? If Scar had been given a chance who knows where we might be offensively.
The playbook is doubly limited because Scarnecchia is a liability on any pass further than 15 yards downfield... Anything to the edges of the field took 15 years to get there and that's begging for a pick six against a decent secondary.
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He looked off a receiver once on a play that was designed to be misdirection.

He threw a ball 3 times directly into a defender and they dropped it.
Okay Mrs. Bentley.
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SCAR LITERALLY THREW THE BALL INTO A DEFENDER'S HANDS ON HIS LAST PLAY OF THE GAME.
Could have been miscommunication on that play but the ball was not picked at all today and Jake threw 3 last week. Sorry to tell you but if we all had a dollar for every almost pick ever in football we could buy as many 5 stars as the neighbors.
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Remember when Williams Brice intimidated opponents? Scar has never lost at home! Jake doesn't get this because he has never been actually challenged by backups that have forced him to care. Also if it was truly limited plays today that is because how much time has any other QB had first team reps since Bentley showed up? If Scar had been given a chance who knows where we might be offensively.
Keep in mind he had 3 passes that should have been INTs today. They limited him because they didn't want to put him in a situation where he had to do too much reading of the defense. McClendon was extremely conservative but it allowed us to get 1 on 1 match ups most of the game and at that point it comes down to accuracy and not actually reading much. I'm not saying Bentley's leash didn't just get shorter but he should still be the starter.
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He looked off a receiver once on a play that was designed to be misdirection.

He threw a ball 3 times directly into a defender and they dropped it.
Even by this account that is not true he has already looked off more defenders than Jake just this season.
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