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Old 10-10-2018, 01:27 PM   #21
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All depends how the back up plays but typically an injured player is able to get his job back, because he didn’t do anything to actually LOSE it except get injured. A lot of different variables go into a decision. How bad was the injury? How old is the player vs how young is the replacement? How is the backup performing vs how was the starter performing at the time of his injury, etc.

There are your Tom Brady, dak Prescott, etc. but you can name more that KEPT their jobs than you can who lost their jobs due to injury.
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Jake Bentley lost the starting job by his play in big games. Then he got injured on one of the last drives of one of his shit show performances and he got bailed out.

HOW THE HELL OUR COACHING STAFF DOESN'T SEE THIS IS DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!!!

So they are saying a hobbled Bentley shit show is better than the poise and collected play we saw in a win last week? Hopefully I am wrong but I feel like tamu will embarrass us on our own field mainly because of jake.

All of you say those losses are not ALL ON JAKE. Do not know a damn thing about football your QB manages the entire game and how it goes. He has 3-4 turnovers by throwing balls into window cracks of blanketed receivers and missing and throwing the ball to damn hard to corral half of the time your defense CAN NOT win you the game against ranked teams when they are always on the field and on their backs don't care if you have bamas depth it is not happening. You have to be able to score more than 10-17 against ranked teams and I know there has been fumbles on other guys on offense but the ass whooping we've had the past couple of years are all on jake.
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All depends how the back up plays but typically an injured player is able to get his job back, because he didnít do anything to actually LOSE it except get injured. A lot of different variables go into a decision. How bad was the injury? How old is the player vs how young is the replacement? How is the backup performing vs how was the starter performing at the time of his injury, etc.

There are your Tom Brady, dak Prescott, etc. but you can name more that KEPT their jobs than you can who lost their jobs due to injury.
There's no room for rationality here.

I say give Bentley the start for the reasons you stated, and if he is stinking it up, or his knee is obviously bothering him, then replace him with Scar. Whether they bring in Scar early or late, or at all, should depend on Jake's play. Yes, there is a chance that could put us in a hole, but the decision could be made in the first quarter. Or, the other option would be to give Bentley the first series and if we don't move the ball then give Scar the second possession. Then they could assess and pick the one who is playing the best to finish the half. But I would start Bentley. I just don't see how you could not.
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Nothing like a bit more pressure on a guy who does not handle pressure well.
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There's no room for rationality here.

I say give Bentley the start for the reasons you stated, and if he is stinking it up, or his knee is obviously bothering him, then replace him with Scar. Whether they bring in Scar early or late, or at all, should depend on Jake's play. Yes, there is a chance that could put us in a hole, but the decision could be made in the first quarter. Or, the other option would be to give Bentley the first series and if we don't move the ball then give Scar the second possession. Then they could assess and pick the one who is playing the best to finish the half. But I would start Bentley. I just don't see how you could not.

There is a chance? Have you seen Bentley play healthy? Now imagine that against a ranked team injured.
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Typical response to something you can't refute.
I've been all over this board the last two days saying Jake should be the starter. I've also said that Jake needs to clean up some of his forced throws, and quite possibly, BMac needs to limit the amount of decision-making ability that Jake has. He still needs to have more than what Scarnecchia was given against Missouri, but maybe just a little bit less than what he currently has.

But here we go...

1. Jake has a much higher upside. WAY higher upside.
2. Missouri just isn't even that good defensively. Jake has played against way tougher defenses, including UGA, who he played really well against.
3. You're saying Scarnecchia is our better option based on a single game where he wasn't even asked to do that much.
4. Jake has been a three-year (two and a half) starter over Scarnecchia who has been here for 5 years. I don't think any of us have more first-hand knowledge of the two than Muschamp/McClendon/Werner.

There are four things right there just to kick off our conversation if you want to have one. Can't wait to hear about how Jake is only starting because his dad is on staff though.
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I've been all over this board the last two days saying Jake should be the starter. I've also said that Jake needs to clean up some of his forced throws, and quite possibly, BMac needs to limit the amount of decision-making ability that Jake has. He still needs to have more than what Scarnecchia was given against Missouri, but maybe just a little bit less than what he currently has.

But here we go...

1. Jake has a much higher upside. WAY higher upside.
2. Missouri just isn't even that good defensively. Jake has played against way tougher defenses, including UGA, who he played really well against.
3. You're saying Scarnecchia is our better option based on a single game where he wasn't even asked to do that much.
4. Jake has been a three-year (two and a half) starter over Scarnecchia who has been here for 5 years. I don't think any of us have more first-hand knowledge of the two than Muschamp/McClendon/Werner.

There are four things right there just to kick off our conversation if you want to have one. Can't wait to hear about how Jake is only starting because his dad is on staff though.
Why do people keep saying this? Halfway through his junior year...when do people expect all of this tremendous upside to come to revelation? I am not saying he is bad, at all. He will be remembered as a good QB who played awful against good competition. I feel like, at this point, we pretty much know what we are getting with Jake Bentley
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I don't think anyone is saying Bentley 100% may not be the better option, but to not try Scar out this week after last weekend is just dumb. Everyone keeps saying ohh Jake has all of the experience and Scar doesn't, well no sh** that's because Scar hasn't been given the chance. You have to give someone a try to give them experience. And so far Jake has proven with his "experience" that he can't do anything against a good defense. I think everyone will shut up and be fine if Scar is just given the opportunity and we can know FOR SURE we don't have any better option.
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And I would never even mention giving Scar an opportunity had JB not been hurt last week, sometimes you just find out something different when an injury happens i.e. Jacob Eason and Jake Fromm at UGA.
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I don't think anyone is saying Bentley 100% may not be the better option, but to not try Scar out this week after last weekend is just dumb. Everyone keeps saying ohh Jake has all of the experience and Scar doesn't, well no sh** that's because Scar hasn't been given the chance. You have to give someone a try to give them experience. And so far Jake has proven with his "experience" that he can't do anything against a good defense. I think everyone will shut up and be fine if Scar is just given the opportunity and we can know FOR SURE we don't have any better option.
Experience is just one part of it. Did anybody see Scarnecchia make any throws that Jake wouldn't be able to make last weekend? Honestly. I did not. The guy racked up yards on pretty short passes where he wasn't really being asked to do anything.

Besides, this isn't a process of elimination type of scenario. We don't just toss guys into a game to see if they suck so we can cross them off the list. That is just a terrible way to manage the situation. Otherwise, why not start Urich or Joyner? They haven't gotten their shot yet. It's only a conference game. How do we know FOR SURE one of them isn't the best option?
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And I would never even mention giving Scar an opportunity had JB not been hurt last week, sometimes you just find out something different when an injury happens i.e. Jacob Eason and Jake Fromm at UGA.
Just so we're clear...this is nothing like going from Eason to Fromm.
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Why do people keep saying this? Halfway through his junior year...when do people expect all of this tremendous upside to come to revelation? I am not saying he is bad, at all. He will be remembered as a good QB who played awful against good competition. I feel like, at this point, we pretty much know what we are getting with Jake Bentley
Jake has played pretty well in most games. We've all seen what he's capable of. Just don't expect Tua-type numbers.
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Experience is just one part of it. Did anybody see Scarnecchia make any throws that Jake wouldn't be able to make last weekend? Honestly. I did not. The guy racked up yards on pretty short passes where he wasn't really being asked to do anything.

Besides, this isn't a process of elimination type of scenario. We don't just toss guys into a game to see if they suck so we can cross them off the list. That is just a terrible way to manage the situation. Otherwise, why not start Urich or Joyner? They haven't gotten their shot yet. It's only a conference game. How do we know FOR SURE one of them isn't the best option?
Scar was consistently more accurate, in one game I will say, than Jake typically is. I've seen JB make the throw before then overthrow the open receiver the very next play, or make a pass that leaves a receiver high and dry i.e. leading to drops. I was never for what you are suggesting just throwing guys out there, Scar got his shot through an injury and proved himself in a game, so why not give him another? Or hell just a few series?
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Experience is just one part of it. Did anybody see Scarnecchia make any throws that Jake wouldn't be able to make last weekend? Honestly. I did not. The guy racked up yards on pretty short passes where he wasn't really being asked to do anything.

Besides, this isn't a process of elimination type of scenario. We don't just toss guys into a game to see if they suck so we can cross them off the list. That is just a terrible way to manage the situation. Otherwise, why not start Urich or Joyner? They haven't gotten their shot yet. It's only a conference game. How do we know FOR SURE one of them isn't the best option?
Yes a fade route. If he can throw a wheel route then that is 2. I also saw him use touch when he needed to and throw receivers open
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Just so we're clear...this is nothing like going from Eason to Fromm.
I agree both QBs probably have higher ceilings at UGA and there is more talent surrounding the QBs at UGA, but the injury situation is similar. If Eason never gets hurt he's still the guy, they probably win their Richt-esque 9-10 games and everyone says hey let's keep him in.
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Jake has played pretty well in most games. We've all seen what he's capable of. Just don't expect Tua-type numbers.
Wtf? He has shown nothing to prove he can play against a good caliber opponent, not a knock but the reality. Sometimes by being the safer option the guy can also be the better option. I am not saying this is the case, but if Scarnecchia could go out against good teams, hit the high percentage throws and not turn the ball over then he should give SC a better chance in those games...in theory.
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