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Old 03-06-2018, 03:00 AM   #1
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Were we a big RPO team last year?

I'm not football savvy enough to tell the difference between RPO and a regular play action or whatever.

I just know I'm excited about:

a one year older Jake Bentley + Dan Werner (RPO guy) + healthy Deebo = hopefully more of this


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Were we a big RPO team last year?

I'm not football savvy enough to tell the difference between RPO and a regular play action or whatever.

I just know I'm excited about:

a one year older Jake Bentley + Dan Werner (RPO guy) + healthy Deebo = hopefully more of this
I think we tried to be a big RPO team last year but failed. The thing with RPO and play action is it only works if you pose an actual threat to both run and pass the ball. Now I'm not a super football savvy guy either, but as best I can tell, the play action is a straight passing play all the way while the RPO requires a read of the defense immediately after the snap and a decision by the QB to hand off, keep it, or throw it. So with that in mind, a lot of things have to go right for a successful RPO play. Assignments have to be met, the read has to be right, the decision after the snap has to be right, and the execution has to be there. Miss any one of them, and it's a busted play. Unable or unwilling to hand it off, and the secondary won't bite.
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rpo's are just like any other good play in that its success is predicated on execution and staying in good down distance situations. its not that we did poorly in rpo's last year because a lot of our big plays came out of them. what we have to get better at is running the ball overall and being consistent. we need to be better in short yardage, and better when we have a box advantage against good defenses. in either case, we have to be willing to run jake a little to keep the defense honest.

we didnt run him as often as i would have liked earlier in the bowl game, but we did bust out the speed option in the 2nd half and it led to a big play. hopefully the oline is better and the backs are better this year, but if you telegraph to the defense that you wont run your qb under any circumstance like we did up until the tennessee game youre limiting your offense.
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rpo's are just like any other good play in that its success is predicated on execution and staying in good down distance situations. its not that we did poorly in rpo's last year because a lot of our big plays came out of them. what we have to get better at is running the ball overall and being consistent. we need to be better in short yardage, and better when we have a box advantage against good defenses. in either case, we have to be willing to run jake a little to keep the defense honest.

we didnt run him as often as i would have liked earlier in the bowl game, but we did bust out the speed option in the 2nd half and it led to a big play. hopefully the oline is better and the backs are better this year, but if you telegraph to the defense that you wont run your qb under any circumstance like we did up until the tennessee game youre limiting your offense.
Exactly. RPOs are not magic if the basics of a good offense are not working. We still have to be accurate with our passes and as stated, be willing to run our QB so the defenders have to defend the QB in the run game.

And if our OL can hold their blocks and there's space to run on the edge, then friggin run outside.
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Default Re: Jake Bentley 3-5-2018

I think we need to run more bootleg action on short and medium distance downs. Almost every time we did it last year - very few times - it worked for either a first down or TD. Obviously you can't run it over and over, but 2 to 3 times a game will keep the defense honest and help the inside run game as the defense cannot just stack the box like they have been doing to stuff the inside run game.
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....as the defense cannot just stack the box like they have been doing to stuff the inside run game.
UGA defended our runs with 6 players. There's a reason our OC got canned.
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The biggest thing with the RPO scheme is a TON of it rests with the QB. He has to 1). Make an accurate read and 2) Make the play physically. If he's off on either one of these two, then it could be a long afternoon.

Just my $0.02.
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The RPO only works if the QB actually runs the ball, it seemed like most of the time teams knew that Jake was not going to keep it, and they hardly played that option. I don't know if it was him reading the ball or the coaches telling him to because we had almost 0 depth at the position. With a few more QB's in the stable, do we see Jake keeping it, at least a few times a game to keep the D more honest?
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The RPO only works if the QB actually runs the ball...
That's not an RPO. The QB keeper is not the option, it's a quick pass option on a run play. It can be a big play if done right and at the right time.
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That's not an RPO. The QB keeper is not the option, it's a quick pass option on a run play. It can be a big play if done right and at the right time.
You can run the inside zone play off an RPO concept.
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You can run the inside zone play off an RPO concept.
I think an example of that would be the offensive side of the play that resulted in “The Hit”.
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You can run the inside zone play off an RPO concept.
Inside zone doesn't run the QB.
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Inside zone doesn't run the QB.
While at clempson, Chad Morris would hand to the RB, run the QB or RPO out to a screen pass from the the inside zone.
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While at clempson, Chad Morris would hand to the RB, run the QB or RPO out to a screen pass from the the inside zone.
Morris was genius until he went up against a good Dline, we proved this before 2014.
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Morris was genius until he went up against a good Dline, we proved this before 2014.
Yeah, the comment really wasn't about how EFFECTIVE it was or wasn't just that it can be done.

But I mean it's football. "Never say never."
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Yeah, the comment really wasn't about how EFFECTIVE it was or wasn't just that it can be done.

But I mean it's football. "Never say never."
Why would you even bring up what Clemsux does?
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Why would you even bring up what Clemsux does?
Just to say it can be done, and Morris is at Arky now anyway. I'm sure he did the same thing at SMU, but who has and watches tape of SMU?
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