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Old 03-06-2017, 03:39 PM   #21
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I've posted it before so I guess I'll post it again...

NC State: W
Missouri: W
Kentucky: W
La Tech: W
Texas A&M: TOSS UP
Arkansas: TOSS UP
Tennessee: W
Vanderbilt: W
Georgia: L
Florida: TOSS UP
Wofford: W
Clemson: TOSS UP
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I've posted it before so I guess I'll post it again...

NC State: W
Missouri: W
Kentucky: W
La Tech: W
Texas A&M: TOSS UP
Arkansas: TOSS UP
Tennessee: W
Vanderbilt: W
Georgia: L
Florida: TOSS UP
Wofford: W
Clemson: TOSS UP
I hope you're right. That would be a great season even if we win just 2 of those toss up's.
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I've posted it before so I guess I'll post it again...

NC State: W
Missouri: W
Kentucky: W
La Tech: W
Texas A&M: TOSS UP
Arkansas: TOSS UP
Tennessee: W
Vanderbilt: W
Georgia: L
Florida: TOSS UP
Wofford: W
Clemson: TOSS UP
I don't think I'm ready to call Clemson a toss-up. I'd prefer you to be right and me wrong, but I just don't think we are there yet.
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Default Re: A "successful" season for 2017

I keep hearing the "schedule is tougher" as a reason to be happy with 6-6. But it ain't tougher and I would not be happy.

UGA is tough but beatable, same with UF. Pretty much every other team on the schedule looks to be the same or worse. In particular, TAMU, UT and Clemson lose a lot. NC State might be a little tougher than ECU - and we play on a neutral field - but ECU beat them head to head last year.

With the youth at the O skill positions and the improved play once we got players healthy, a two game improvement is modest. We lose some on D but also have a nice influx of talent on the D Line and we get Skai back.
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I don't think I'm ready to call Clemson a toss-up. I'd prefer you to be right and me wrong, but I just don't think we are there yet.
If it was in Clemson again, it'd put it at a loss. My big reason for the toss up was that it's in Columbia, and that it is a rivalry. Plus, Clemson won't be as strong with them losing so much. Not saying we win, but it's not a definite loss. Hell, we went 3-9 last time they came to WBS and it was a close game
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If it was in Clemson again, it'd put it at a loss. My big reason for the toss up was that it's in Columbia, and that it is a rivalry. Plus, Clemson won't be as strong with them losing so much. Not saying we win, but it's not a definite loss. Hell, we went 3-9 last time they came to WBS and it was a close game
Fair enough. I'm thinking a more stable offense, and a well-developed defense will pay off. Hopefully sooner than most of us are expecting!
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Old 03-06-2017, 05:43 PM   #27
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Its hard to predict much until both SC and their opponents play a few games.
NS State is a very Jekyll and Hyde team, but Y'all have done well vs North Carolina teams in openers. Does anyone think Mizzou will have any D to go with its O by week 2?
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I expect to win more games than we lose this year.
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I WANT to go 15-0. I'll settle for 9 wins that sends Clemson back to Clemsoning, and Kentucky back to the 'I can't wait for basketball season' fandom that they are.
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A successful season for 2017 will get rid of the trolls that seem to be attracted to this place lately...
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Beat the absolute piss out of clemson and it's a success.
I would define success much like the others on here with 7-8 wins... but this would really make me happy! Especially after this weekend's baseball series.
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7-5 with no losses to NCS, Vandy, Missouri or Kentucky.
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Old 03-06-2017, 09:05 PM   #34
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Old 03-06-2017, 09:07 PM   #35
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Win the East, win the state.
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Default Re: A "successful" season for 2017

If we go by Champs goals, then anything less than going to Atlanta is a let down. That being said, this is how I see it at this moment.

NC State: W
Missouri: W
Kentucky: W
La Tech: W
Texas A&M: TOSS UP
Arkansas: TOSS UP
Tennessee: W
Vanderbilt: W
Georgia: TOSS UP
Florida: W (They lose Champs defense and they still haven't found an offense)
Wofford: W
Clemson: L (Won't have Watson, but will still have a stout defense.) If our OLine has improved drastically, then I may change this later on.

This is a base 8-4 season. To be considered successful I think we need at least a 7 win season + the bowl. I think we have the talent to beat UGA as well, the only reason I am calling a toss up there is bc it is in Athens. This could also change depending on if Eason improves. If he stays as he was or regresses, I see no reason we couldn't beat them. Vandy beat them in Athens on Homecoming after all.
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First of all, we will be better at every position group......OL, QB, RB, WR, TE, DL, LB and DB. Second, both our offensive and defensive playbooks will be expanded which means teams will have to prepare more for us on both sides of the ball.
Third, it's all about Bentley. He's the best player on the team. Our record will equal how well he plays and how much he improves. If he is somewhat better, 7 wins. Clearly better with few mistakes, 8 wins. Much much better 9+ wins.

And we one more thing, we got our leader back. Don't underestimate having Skai Moore on the field.
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Old 03-07-2017, 12:03 PM   #38
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I just want an entertaining product again. Those few seasons with Connor were so fun to watch. I'm spoiled now. Our lines on both sides of the ball are the limiting factor. I think we've got one more year of waiting through the improvement until it's really entertaining to watch us play. Either way, let's have a good time and give this staff an honest shot.
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I think you have to add at least one win to the final total to call it a success. Yes, you can always look at the stats and show where we improved in certain areas but at the end of the day, it's wins and losses. Nobody's expecting us to win 10 games, but 7 is a realistic expectation if you got 6 in your first year.
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If we go by Champs goals, then anything less than going to Atlanta is a let down. That being said, this is how I see it at this moment.

NC State: W
Missouri: W
Kentucky: W
La Tech: W
Texas A&M: TOSS UP
Arkansas: TOSS UP
Tennessee: W
Vanderbilt: W
Georgia: TOSS UP
Florida: W (They lose Champs defense and they still haven't found an offense)
Wofford: W
Clemson: L (Won't have Watson, but will still have a stout defense.) If our OLine has improved drastically, then I may change this later on.

This is a base 8-4 season. To be considered successful I think we need at least a 7 win season + the bowl. I think we have the talent to beat UGA as well, the only reason I am calling a toss up there is bc it is in Athens. This could also change depending on if Eason improves. If he stays as he was or regresses, I see no reason we couldn't beat them. Vandy beat them in Athens on Homecoming after all.
I like the way you think. But the problem in the Clemson game was not the O Line as much as the QB. Bentley was not ready, did not read the D well, and did not get the ball out quick. BMac actually looked better because he throws the ball quicker - Bentley's ability to go through progressions was seen as a strength, but against an attacking D, you have to let go of it.

Having said that, the O Line will be a lot better, with Bailey/Camper/Daley at RT, Hutcherson and Young at LT, and a healthy Stanley, Knott and Helms at the Guard and Center positions, with Park and others helping out.

Beat NC State and we could get on a roll.
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