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Old 03-13-2017, 12:13 PM   #1
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Looks like the other thread is closed, this is new information and seems appropriate. SDS (yes, take with a grain of salt) reports that the day prior to BMAC announcing the transfer, he got into an argument with Roper at practice. The article notes that this is from statements made by Deebo to Kendall. Have to wonder if they are related.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/so...outh-carolina/

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The argument was also reported by the State: http://www.thestate.com/sports/colle...138174543.html

We can only wildly speculate about the details of the argument, and it's probably wise not to do so.

He's gone and he most likely wasn't going to be a contributor at the QB position for us had he stayed.
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Old Josh Kendall, baiting two players and then writing an entire article or two on the conjecture.

If there's a pot that needs stirring, just call Kendall.
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Default Re: Argument between Roper & McIlwain

Well there you have it.

Ole boy just didn't like the competition level. I really hoped he would've been more of a competitor, but it looks like he may have just folded up or he was simply overrated.

A shame really.
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OK, kids...letting it be known right now that this will not be a bashing thread. Already had one bashing and that will be it. Lets not dump on a kid that isnt even 20 yet. Thanks In Advance...
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Default Re: Argument between Roper & McIlwain

This whole situation makes more sense now. Going home after arguing with the OC, talking it over with your parents that defended you after getting benched due to under-performing last season, and then not showing up for practice the next day only to announce you're leaving the program...

I at least hope he decides to wear his own jock at whatever west coast school decides to put up with his entitlement. Their lack of defense should help as well.

EDIT: After reading the SEC Country article a few posts down, it disgusts me more that he let his teammates/"friends" know via social media and news reports. That speaks plenty about his character as a team leader.

In all honesty, this is probably best for USC. People like him can be a cancer on an otherwise good team. See Tennessee.
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Not bashing but I don't consider anyone that can vote or defend this nation a kid anymore.
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Bmac doesn't seem like the type to argue with a coach, but what do I know. He seems like a good kid.
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Whatever BMac was arguing with Roper, I bet BMac was right....
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Seems like the decision was made in haste, if he didn't even tell any of his teammates, who you'd imagine he'd gotten close to over the past year. Or perhaps he just didn't want anyone trying to talk him out of it.
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This whole situation makes more sense now. Going home after arguing with the OC, talking it over with your parents that defended you after getting benched due to under-performing last season, and then not showing up for practice the next day only to announce you're leaving the program...

I at least hope he decides to wear his own jock at whatever west coast school decides to put up with his entitlement. Their lack of defense should help as well.

EDIT: After reading the SEC Country article a few posts down, it disgusts me more that he let his teammates/"friends" know via social media and news reports. That speaks plenty about his character as a team leader.

In all honesty, this is probably best for USC. People like him can be a cancer on an otherwise good team. See Tennessee.
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There was a lot of stuff going on besides arguing with a coach. But to me arguing with a coach would earn a boot off of the football team.
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Seems like the decision was made in haste, if he didn't even tell any of his teammates, who you'd imagine he'd gotten close to over the past year. Or perhaps he just didn't want anyone trying to talk him out of it.
I think his family had been fed up with USC and this was kind of the last straw. I still say it's on Brandon's shoulders that no one heard anything before the media did, but that could have been influenced by Brandon's support cast too.

If one player-coach argument in late February is all it took for this kid to just give up and transfer, I'm so glad we didn't waste time putting any eggs in his basket closer to the fall.

I would love to hear Muschamp or Roper's comments on this as well though.
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I think his family had been fed up with USC and this was kind of the last straw. I still say it's on Brandon's shoulders that no one heard anything before the media did, but that could have been influenced by Brandon's support cast too.

If one player-coach argument in late February is all it took for this kid to just give up and transfer, I'm so glad we didn't waste time putting any eggs in his basket closer to the fall.

I would love to hear Muschamp or Roper's comments on this as well though.
..The family had NO reason to be fed up....The coaches gave BMac every chance possible. That didnt mean he was not going to see playing time, but he for sure was not going to be the starter either..
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This whole situation makes more sense now. Going home after arguing with the OC, talking it over with your parents that defended you after getting benched due to under-performing last season, and then not showing up for practice the next day only to announce you're leaving the program...

I at least hope he decides to wear his own jock at whatever west coast school decides to put up with his entitlement. Their lack of defense should help as well.

EDIT: After reading the SEC Country article a few posts down, it disgusts me more that he let his teammates/"friends" know via social media and news reports. That speaks plenty about his character as a team leader.

In all honesty, this is probably best for USC. People like him can be a cancer on an otherwise good team. See Tennessee.
Yeah, I can understand a kid getting ticked at the coaches and making the emotional decision to leave. But surely he was friends with some of these guys on the team? It doesn't fit with all the great descriptions we've heard of his character that he didn't even shoot one or two of them a text. In spite of the competition, the QBs are usually a pretty close-knit group, but not even Jake had heard about it. He seemed genuinely disappointed.
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..The family had NO reason to be fed up....The coaches gave BMac every chance possible. That didnt mean he was not going to see playing time, but he for sure was not going to be the starter either..
I agree that they had absolutely ZERO reason to feel like Brandon got the sore end of the deal, but his mom's facebook antics say otherwise. That type of resentment from a parent, regardless of how BMac really felt at the time, could've eventually seeped into Brandon's thought process as well the more they talked and reflected over the months. His parents might have even forced his hand in this situation. We'll never know, and I'm sure we'll never find out what exactly was said between he and Roper.
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