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Old 03-13-2017, 01:33 PM   #21
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I agree that they had absolutely ZERO reason to feel like Brandon got the sore end of the deal, but his mom's facebook antics say otherwise. That type of resentment from a parent, regardless of how BMac really felt at the time, could've eventually seeped into Brandon's thought process as well the more they talked and reflected over the months. His parents might have even forced his hand in this situation. We'll never know, and I'm sure we'll never find out what exactly was said between he and Roper.
..I think you are correct...BMac just doesnt seem to be the type to pout, take his ball and go home. Especially seeing how he interacted during the year after he knew Bentz was going to be the man. I think the parents have more to do with his decision than folks want to admitt.
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I agree that they had absolutely ZERO reason to feel like Brandon got the sore end of the deal, but his mom's facebook antics say otherwise. That type of resentment from a parent, regardless of how BMac really felt at the time, could've eventually seeped into Brandon's thought process as well the more they talked and reflected over the months. His parents might have even forced his hand in this situation. We'll never know, and I'm sure we'll never find out what exactly was said between he and Roper.
It also could work to dampen interest in him from other programs. If a coach is worried about having to keep mama happy or Brandon might walk away, they may decide it's not worth it. That's question #1 I'd ask him if I were the coach of a program he was interested in.
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It also could work to dampen interest in him from other programs. If a coach is worried about having to keep mama happy or Brandon might walk away, they may decide it's not worth it. That's question #1 I'd ask him if I were the coach of a program he was interested in.
..BMac will land somewhere where they will let him drop back 10 yards and heave it...ect. Baylor or someone like that..
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none of this even matters. He isn't on the team any more. Time to move on
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none of this even matters. He isn't on the team any more. Time to move on
..This guy has figured it out..
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We will never hear anything more about this from a Coach. They will take the high road and they ought to. Some of you would benefit from that approach also and just let it be. He's transferring.
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none of this even matters. He isn't on the team any more. Time to move on
Hey, folks want to discuss football. Gotta take what you can get this time of year.
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We will never hear anything more about this from a Coach. They will take the high road and they ought to. Some of you would benefit from that approach also and just let it be. He's transferring.
Sure, any comments they share would be PR speak, but as a coach wouldn't you rather have a public statement on file than have to foot the question at every recruiting event or any time you talk to a QB prospect/their parents?

Not saying they owe it to anyone or to the McIlwains, but this is a big move from out of nowhere in the spring that seems to be picking up media attention based solely on how nationally known BMac's recruitment was.
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Sure, any comments they share would be PR speak, but as a coach wouldn't you rather have a public statement on file rather than having to foot the question at every recruiting event or any time you talk to a QB prospect/their parents?

Not saying they owe it to anyone or to the McIlwains, but this is a big move from out of nowhere in the spring that seems to be picking up media attention based solely on how nationally known BMac's recruitment was.
No, there's no way Champ or anyone comments on this beyond the generic "we appreciate the time and energy Brandon gave to the program and wish him nothing the best going forward." It would be beneath him to offer an explanation.
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This whole situation makes more sense now. Going home after arguing with the OC, talking it over with your parents that defended you after getting benched due to under-performing last season, and then not showing up for practice the next day only to announce you're leaving the program...

I at least hope he decides to wear his own jock at whatever west coast school decides to put up with his entitlement. Their lack of defense should help as well.

EDIT: After reading the SEC Country article a few posts down, it disgusts me more that he let his teammates/"friends" know via social media and news reports. That speaks plenty about his character as a team leader.

In all honesty, this is probably best for USC. People like him can be a cancer on an otherwise good team. See Tennessee.
Well said. I had mentioned his attitude issues in the other thread and a few others had heard similar things through the grapevine, of course a few posters said that is was just an unfounded rumor that should be ignored.
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Adios and good luck. Next man up.
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..The family had NO reason to be fed up....The coaches gave BMac every chance possible. That didnt mean he was not going to see playing time, but he for sure was not going to be the starter either..
Exactly, USC gave him a scholarship to play football and even his coach told him he could play baseball too.
No reason whatsoever for his family to be fed up.
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B Mac was given every opportunity here and was even told that he could spend as much time on Baseball that he wanted this Spring. Last season he battled Orth for the starting spot and mostly won it but the offense was still stagnant. Bentley won the job fair and square no matter what Mrs. McIlwain says and he did it without the benefit of Spring ball and first team reps.

While it appeared that he had solidified the #2 spot is it possible that a now healthy Scarnaccia was beating him out for that as well? Was he offered the opportunity to drop football and go on a full Baseball scholarship? Or was he just not happy with how everything turned out and decided that with a RS year still available he could start fresh somewhere else? Either way he has moved on and so should we.
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Well there you have it.

Ole boy just didn't like the competition level. I really hoped he would've been more of a competitor, but it looks like he may have just folded up or he was simply overrated.

A shame really.
The comeptition was Bentley vs Bentley, with an outside possibility of Bentley. And that is why McIllwain is gone. If McIllwain doesn't want to be a back up, there is nothing to discuss about this. Good luck to him.
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Not to hijack this thread, but what do we know about Urick? I haven't been keeping up very well. Is he enrolled already and participating in Spring practice? He looks good on paper. Hopefully he can be a good #2 or #3.
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It's his decision to leave, what I don't get is why he assumes he can transfer to another d1 school and will be the guy immediately (after sitting out a year). Baylor is stacked at qb from what I hear, his x factor was supposed to be his legs but in all fairness the kid showed he isn't on the level of Francios (FSU), Watson , or other dual threats that can really change a game. Good luck but he's probably better off going to a lower division to play football and focusing on baseball.
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Not to hijack this thread, but what do we know about Urick? I haven't been keeping up very well. Is he enrolled already and participating in Spring practice? He looks good on paper. Hopefully he can be a good #2 or #3.
why not just start a new thread?

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Not to hijack this thread, but what do we know about Urick? I haven't been keeping up very well. Is he enrolled already and participating in Spring practice? He looks good on paper. Hopefully he can be a good #2 or #3.
There is a rumor going around that he will change his last name.
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There is a rumor going around that he will change his last name.
Make sense Urick has nice ring to it. I think Ulrich could do fine, nice size,decent arm, and he got a Ucheat offer so he must have a 5star heart if nothing else.
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..The family had NO reason to be fed up....The coaches gave BMac every chance possible. That didnt mean he was not going to see playing time, but he for sure was not going to be the starter either..
That is the big thing.
McIllwain had a chance to be the starter, but did not produce.
Bentley ran the same offense and was able to put points on the boards...that is how it goes.....if you don't produce and the guy behind you does, you lose your spot.

That is the hardest thing for prospects to learn...in HS they were the big dog, the best player on the field...in college, everyone was the best player on the field....and it gets even harder at the NFL.
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