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Old 05-13-2018, 11:32 PM   #61
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Roper benched Driskell mid-season.
Yep....well this was something some of us were trying to point out during last season, but it just wasn't appropriate considering we were trying to win with what we had.
None of KR's QBs ever had good stats, which became as big an issue as the offense itself. What good is an offense if you can't coach your QBs?
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What he did is something that could take close to a decade or more to recover from
For all intents, USC has already "recovered". A 9 win season is the exception, not the rule.
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:08 AM   #62
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What's crazy is that we won 9 games with a Roper coached offense. Should have been at least 10 with a UK win.

As for Clemson. I'm becoming less worried about them as our recruiting has improved tremendously. I'm also not as bummed if we lose to them. As I've gotten older, I've realized the SEC games are much more important. Sure you've got bragging rights and tradition etc, but our schedule is usually a gauntlet every single year week in and week out. Clemson is like playing UGA twice but winning means nothing outside of the rivalry.

Also, I assume our AD is not someone to fire a coach who has a losing record against his rival, but is otherwise successful.
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:19 AM   #63
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Yep....well this was something some of us were trying to point out during last season, but it just wasn't appropriate considering we were trying to win with what we had.
None of KR's QBs ever had good stats, which became as big an issue as the offense itself. What good is an offense if you can't coach your QBs?
I did a deep dive into some research on Roper after the 2016 Clem game and started posting on a few message boards that there was no proof Roper was even an average OC. There were very few posters who were anti-Roper at that time and I was honestly shocked by how many fans/posters were in blind support of Roper when it appeared to me Roper may be Muschamp's undoing here.

I thought Muschamp made a mistake by keeping Roper on for 2017 and when he did I thought we may only win 4-5 games and Roper would get fired mid-season. I was almost correct on the mid-season firing because had we lost to La Tech at home after just losing to UK at home, there would have had to have been a change to save the season. It took until the end of the season but Roper eventually got let go. As SC fans, we should be able to appreciate just how bad of an OC one must be if our Gamecocks win 8 games in a season and the OC still gets fired.
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As SC fans, we should be able to appreciate just how bad of an OC one must be if our Gamecocks win 8 games in a season and the OC still gets fired.
The run game was the worst IMO. But we are back to beating a dead horse. But for sure, it did seem Will was trending the same path that he took at UF, in spite of him saying he had learned his lesson.

This coming season will be big for Will. He has a lot going for him on both sides of the ball.
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The run game was the worst IMO.
Now that's an understatement! If I had to watch another run up the middle into a stacked line, or even worse another jet sweep using Hurst (who the Hell uses a TE on a jet sweep) I was going to pull my hair out.
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What's crazy is that we won 9 games with a Roper coached offense. Should have been at least 10 with a UK win.

As for Clemson. I'm becoming less worried about them as our recruiting has improved tremendously. I'm also not as bummed if we lose to them. As I've gotten older, I've realized the SEC games are much more important. Sure you've got bragging rights and tradition etc, but our schedule is usually a gauntlet every single year week in and week out. Clemson is like playing UGA twice but winning means nothing outside of the rivalry.

Also, I assume our AD is not someone to fire a coach who has a losing record against his rival, but is otherwise successful.
I've always hated when people say "I don't care if we go 1-11 if it means we beat Clemson."

NO!!! You still lost 11 games. Everyone wants to beat Clemson (I sure as hell do), but there are 11 other games on the schedule that are just as (or even more) important.
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The run game was the worst IMO. But we are back to beating a dead horse. But for sure, it did seem Will was trending the same path that he took at UF, in spite of him saying he had learned his lesson.

This coming season will be big for Will. He has a lot going for him on both sides of the ball.
If he didn't fire Roper, he'd definitely be repeating his Florida mistakes. The jury is still out on BMac, but his adjustments at the bowl game won me over. Had Roper been the OC in that first half, we would have lost that game. Good coaches make adjustments. I also really like the Dan Werner hire. His record speaks for itself. Muschamp will always be a defensive guy, but he also knows that he needs a reliable offense.

Not all the offensive problems will be fixed this year, but as we've said a million times since 2016 - a step in the right direction.
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Now that's an understatement! If I had to watch another run up the middle into a stacked line, or even worse another jet sweep using Hurst (who the Hell uses a TE on a jet sweep) I was going to pull my hair out.
Did we ever lose ydg on the QB keeper? We didn't even start running Jake until mid-season.
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Did we ever lose ydg on the QB keeper? We didn't even start running Jake until mid-season.
And after a couple of TD's Roper stopped running him again.
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Did we ever lose ydg on the QB keeper? We didn't even start running Jake until mid-season.
I think the UT game was the first time Jake ran and he went for more than 10 yards IIRC. He maybe ran the ball 6-7 more times the rest of the season. I donít have a problem with that since it was vital Jake stayed healthy the whole season and that was accomplished.
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I've always hated when people say "I don't care if we go 1-11 if it means we beat Clemson."

NO!!! You still lost 11 games. Everyone wants to beat Clemson (I sure as hell do), but there are 11 other games on the schedule that are just as (or even more) important.
But it would REALLY eat at the tillmanites to know they were beaten by an 11-loss rival team!
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I think the UT game was the first time Jake ran and he went for more than 10 yards IIRC. He maybe ran the ball 6-7 more times the rest of the season. I donít have a problem with that since it was vital Jake stayed healthy the whole season and that was accomplished.
He scored 6 TDs running alone running after the bye week. The red zone offense clearly picked up with Jake running.
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All I know is that I have loved the muschamp era so far and I hope cola is his last stop. Super happy to have him here. He def still has some things to prove but you gotta give to him he wonít be outworked. Go cocks


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