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Old 06-08-2018, 12:12 AM   #21
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Sorry but in my opinion Bentley as a junior is atleast eaual to Fromm. He did look good last year with two high level senior RBs to help the offense and still not discounting his ability , but we donít have a shot because they have Fromm ?
Bentley needs to show some improved passing accuracy this year. I don't question the other aspects of his game, or his toughness or smarts, but he could be inconsistent with his arm last season. If he smooths out that aspect of his game I think he has potential to be top-tier elite and comparisons with people like Fromm will be a different discussion entirely.
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I don't think Carolina has a shot against Georgia. Fromm looks a NFL signal caller. They will be a bear the next two years. With that being said, we should be the second best team in the East. I wouldn't be disappointed with a 8-4 record. I think by 2019 or 2020 they could reach the 10-11 win mark.



Because no team in the history of football has ever beaten a team with a good QB


Fromm will be there in 2019 too so what's the difference?
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Oddly, I think we do have a shot a UGA this year. 30+/- gone from last years team, albeit a highly rated recruiting class = young team especially on defense!
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As long as the offense doesn't hang them out to dry. Up tempo is great when it works but will wear out a defense when it doesn't.
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Several sites have us at 7-5 or 8-4. Reddit CFB prediction has us at 11-1 in the SECCG vs. Alabama. Long time to go before the season starts.
There is still a talent deficit with schools like Alabama, UGA, Clemson, Auburn, Oklahoma, etc. at several positions. If we make the SECCG game before Champ has recruiting completely ramped up it would be amazing.
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Oddly, I think we do have a shot a UGA this year. 30+/- gone from last years team, albeit a highly rated recruiting class = young team especially on defense!
I concur. If the game is decided by star ratings, then we have no chance. UGA kills us in recruiting.

But there is a lot more to it - how good your starters are (UGA has us beat with the 2nd and 3rd teamers, but they won't play much), experience (like you say, UGA loses a ton, especially on D, plus their two super RBs), coaching (if the game is close, i have confidence in Kirby making a dumb mistake due to inexperience), and home field advantage - which will be ours.

I think we have a good chance. And a W will put us in the driver's seat for the East.
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I concur. If the game is decided by star ratings, then we have no chance. UGA kills us in recruiting.

But there is a lot more to it - how good your starters are (UGA has us beat with the 2nd and 3rd teamers, but they won't play much), experience (like you say, UGA loses a ton, especially on D, plus their two super RBs), coaching (if the game is close, i have confidence in Kirby making a dumb mistake due to inexperience), and home field advantage - which will be ours.

I think we have a good chance. And a W will put us in the driver's seat for the East.
Letís take care of business in week one and rest our starters for the 2nd half and start preparing for UGay. We have a real shot against them early.
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For all of those saying we have no chance against uga because their star rankings, or talent level is so much higher than ours, I have one thing to say to you. We played them tougher than almost anyone last year, as said by their own players. The talent and experience gap was much, much, much bigger last season, than it will be this season.
If Werner is able to do with Jake, what he has done with every other qb he has coached, our wr's and rb's stay relatively healthy and the defense continues the progression it has in the first two years, we WILL beat uga. We always play them tough, so there's no mental thing like we seem to have w tamu, and it is at home. This team is going to be a lot better than most people are willing to say right now.
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Swapping McClendon for Roper and adding Werner is worth at least 1 more win, i.e. add at least 7-10 more points per game. Plus the defense continues to improve under Boom/T-Rob. Iíve seen many on here talk about our lack of expereince in the secondary. But weíve got Fenton, Nixon, Montac and Williams returning with some experience. And weíve got some stars at DB who are freshman, so I donít see the DB position being as much of a liability as others believe.
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Wins and loses are impossible to predict...if it were easy we'd all be rich.

That being said...we will play good defensive football and we will turn the ball over...its what Boom and T-Rob do. Line should be better and I thinnk the WR core could be scary. Deebo isn't just some dude coming back...if he's healthy he's Robert Brooks/Pha' ROW Cooper...Bryan Edwards and Tre Smith are going to the NFL..both are huge...Smith is a monster...and Shi Smith didn't drop a single ball in 2017...let that sink in...caught everything thrown his way...oh yeah...and he can take any ball he catches to the house...everytime he touches the ball.

We certainly have weaknesses but speed up the offense and get the ball into the hands of the people who need it and we could be pretty good.
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All gas no brakes......I think sums it up quite well.
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7-8 wins in the regular season seems to be a sweet spot ... the new offense could change all predictions if it is as hoped, though.
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Pic - can’t disagree with you. For honest Dawg fans, we all know this will be an early test for Smart and the Dawgs. The talent inherited by a Smart have mostly cycled through. He has recruited like a champ (pun intended) but how will they play? Georgia played deep on both sides of the ball last year so not as inexperienced as some anticipate. The real question is who emerges at LB to fills the leadership role and outstanding play of Smith. Then does the secondary continue to develop. Odds: 60/40 Dawgs ... but door is open @ WB.
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Swapping McClendon for Roper and adding Werner is worth at least 1 more win, i.e. add at least 7-10 more points per game. Plus the defense continues to improve under Boom/T-Rob. Iíve seen many on here talk about our lack of expereince in the secondary. But weíve got Fenton, Nixon, Montac and Williams returning with some experience. And weíve got some stars at DB who are freshman, so I donít see the DB position being as much of a liability as others believe.
With the addition of Ibe and Harvey, experience is not a problem anymore at DB. There could be situations where we field 5 seniors (Fenton, Harvey, Nixon, Montac, Ibe).
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Pic - canít disagree with you. For honest Dawg fans, we all know this will be an early test for Smart and the Dawgs. The talent inherited by a Smart have mostly cycled through. He has recruited like a champ (pun intended) but how will they play? Georgia played deep on both sides of the ball last year so not as inexperienced as some anticipate. The real question is who emerges at LB to fills the leadership role and outstanding play of Smith. Then does the secondary continue to develop. Odds: 60/40 Dawgs ... but door is open @ WB.
Agreed. Also, whoever comes up short in this game is not necessarily out of the SEC east running!
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I think the one thing that Champ had been worried about is how fast-tempo offenses, when they fail, give the ball back so quickly and put added pressure on the defense. When he allowed and encouraged B-Mac to move to a form of the Air Raid/uptempo, it told me two things: he trusts B Mac to make the tempo work, and he trusts T-Rob and the D to pick up the slack regardless. Either way, bodes well IMO.
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Agreed. Also, whoever comes up short in this game is not necessarily out of the SEC east running!
Even though it may feel like it for a few weeks.
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I for one will be very surprised if don't beat Georgia this year. People talk about their Recruiting but their Recruiting has always been great. Fromm looks like a good prospect but he certainly still has a lot to prove especially with his two Aces in the backfield gone. Yes Swift is a good back but those two were great RBs.
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Im a bit more cautious..our offense was inconsistent last year and I think that crazy 4th quarter in the bowl game has people forgetting the previous 7 quarters..

What gives me good feelings is the health of our playmakers along with another year of maturity..
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