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Old 05-08-2018, 03:04 PM   #1
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Default Muschamp tormenting Florida fans again

http://gridironnow.com/will-muschamp...ns-once-again/

Even Florida fans realize they screwed up.
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That's misleading. The title implies Will is somehow trolling UF people. Will is above that.

For all intents and purposes, let what happens on the field do the talking.
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Very misleading. No content of note in the article.

"Muschamp recruits well" sums up the entire thing.
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bogus article. and i dont know any uf fans who want him back. none.

saying that, i think they will have a hard time with sc this year.
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bogus article. and i dont know any uf fans who want him back. none.

saying that, i think they will have a hard time with sc this year.
UF made a HUGE MISTAKE in releasing Will. Most of the UF players hated to see him leave.

Don't know if some of you know this but in a 2 year period Florida had more players drafted by the NFL than any other SEC team and YES, these were Muschamp recruits. UF's loss is definitely USC's gain. He knows talent when he sees it and is very quick to make early offers, giving USC a big recruiting advantage.
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Do they? They're going to be really good under Mullen.
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Do they? They're going to be really good under Mullen.
Mullen has not won anything at UF and Muschamp has had us in back to back bowls coming off a 3-9 record. I think Sc is doing very well and will continue to do well under Muschamp.
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Very misleading. No content of note in the article.

"Muschamp recruits well" sums up the entire thing.
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Even Florida fans realize they screwed up.
They should realize they screwed up...by not hiring Mullen in '14 after showing Boom the door.

Mullen got Miss St to #1 in the country during the '14 season...the school with the least amount of facilities/fan support/resources (not named Vandy) in the SEC...nobody reading this will probably ever see that happen in Starkville again.

Mullen had the Florida connection being Meyer's OC during his run in Gainesville, but they went with a Saban alum in McElwain.

Good for us they did go down the wrong road...we got a improved version of Muschamp 2.0 & Florida won't have a stand alone Football Ops building until 2021.

We've got a head start on the Gators...now we have to keep them in OUR rearview mirror on the field & in recruiting as long as possible for the next 4-5 years...'cause they won't stay down for too long.

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Mullen was a home run hire for them.
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Mullen has not won anything at UF and Muschamp has had us in back to back bowls coming off a 3-9 record. I think Sc is doing very well and will continue to do well under Muschamp.
but he had a good start at Florida too. all it takes to go from a good team to a bad team in this league is for your good QB graduating or going to the NFL early. It's the difference between 11 and 5 win seasons.
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but he had a good start at Florida too. all it takes to go from a good team to a bad team in this league is for your good QB graduating or going to the NFL early. It's the difference between 11 and 5 win seasons.
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UF took a chance on Muschamp at Florida due to the fact he had not been a head coach at a major
program before, and was only Rumored to be the HC in waiting at Texas. That was never confirmed by
a reliable source, other than Fan Message boards and Sports talk show hosts opinion. Everyone knew
he was a damn good defensive minded coach, but as a Head Coach he was questionable.

Jeremy Foley hired him at UF to follow Urban Meyer but he also had a major hand in hiring Muschamp's
staff there, and one of the first things he did was to bring Charlie Weiss aboard to run the offense. It
was never proven, but most believe he was hired as a "safety net" in case Muschamp didn't work out,
and they had to get an interim coach for a while. Foley hired or STRONGLY SUGGESTED to Muschamp
to hire Weiss as the OC and that alone put Muschamp in a deep hole there. Their styles of Offense
never jived. Muschamp's plan for the offense, and Weiss' actual schemes did not mesh and it cause
a lot of issues at Florida from the get go. Over the next three years, Champ had to find a way around
the bad start, and the eventual poor replacements of Weiss when he left, but in Champ's final season
he had a very strong, talented roster (especially the Defense), and the offense was "stout", however
shortly after the season started that year, the injury bug hit him and first and second unit players
started dropping like flies. He lost both his starting QB and the #2 guy to season ending injuries, and
also lost two starting O/linemen for the year as well as his starting TE for several weeks. All in all, he
lost 17 players on offense due to injuries and a large pool of those were season ending.
He never got another chance to prove himself after that. He was let go at the end of that season and
ended up at Auburn coaching Defense again.

When he got the job here, Tanner allowed him full reign to hire his assistants, and to take the team
in the direction they wanted to take it. He had total control over the team once he got here, and the
results have been slow, but very steady in an upward trend. I have no doubt well see that continue
in 2017 and beyond. It makes a huge difference if your AD doesn't get involved in hiring the guys you
are going to depend on to get the program where you want it to go.
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Muschamp may not be actually tormenting Florida (Verbally), but take it to the
bank that he has no issues with the fact that he loved beating UF last year
and splitting the two games he's played them so far. .. I would bet the farm
that after being let go at UF and not given at least one more year to show he
could coach a winning program if he could avoid the flood of injuries, that he
has a huge chip on his shoulder for not only UF and their Athletic Department
but for the hundreds of Sports "Experts" and pundits that had pretty much
written Champ off as Head Coach material at a major D1 program. I would
bet my life savings that he is doing his damnedest to use his HC position here
at South Carolina to prove he has what it takes to be a Head Coach that can
compete with the best out there.
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When he got the job here, Tanner allowed him full reign to hire his assistants....
Great comments. Will readily admitted he made mistakes at UF, which is not uncommon for 1st time HCs.

It does seem he's gotten better at hiring asst coaches. Our defensive coaches are proven, and I like where our offense is headed. I think Dan Werden and Wolfie are big time hires.

The 3rd year slump at UF is Will's demon to exorcise. I don't think any of us think he won't do that in a few months. A solid '18, and Will redeems himself of any any misgivings about what happened at UF.
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UF made a HUGE MISTAKE in releasing Will. Most of the UF players hated to see him leave.

Don't know if some of you know this but in a 2 year period Florida had more players drafted by the NFL than any other SEC team and YES, these were Muschamp recruits. UF's loss is definitely USC's gain. He knows talent when he sees it and is very quick to make early offers, giving USC a big recruiting advantage.
So he had the most drafted players in the SEC but didn't play in the SEC title game? What's that go back to?

Your argument has a lot of holes.
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Muschamp may not be actually tormenting Florida (Verbally), but take it to the
bank that he has no issues with the fact that he loved beating UF last year
and splitting the two games he's played them so far. .. I would bet the farm
that after being let go at UF and not given at least one more year to show he
could coach a winning program if he could avoid the flood of injuries, that he
has a huge chip on his shoulder for not only UF and their Athletic Department
but for the hundreds of Sports "Experts" and pundits that had pretty much
written Champ off as Head Coach material at a major D1 program. I would
bet my life savings that he is doing his damnedest to use his HC position here
at South Carolina to prove he has what it takes to be a Head Coach that can
compete with the best out there.

I think the entire SEC is going to regret him coming to Carolina. i think he has a huge chip on his shoulder, as well, and I think he will take it out on everyone. Look what he has done with what he inherited, and look at the horses he is bringing in.

I'll make a prediction right now. No Saban assistant coach has ever beaten him. Muschamp will be the first.
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What i draw from the article is that Florida had guy who recruited very well, was very good on defense, but couldnít figure out the offense and they fired him. They hired a coach who could recruit, the team statistically got worse but they won with the previous coaches players, for a while. Once those players were gone, it was clear that McIlwain couldnít coach, or recruit.

Muschamp, before Florida, never coached or recruited offensive players. He never built an offensive staff. Never hired an OC. He was then and is now a really good coach. Florida fired him before he figured out how to do the things he had never done before. We forget that coaches are still learning too. It may take more time to figure out the offensive side of things. It may take another year or even another OC to get us there. But rest assured he will figure it out. He is to good of a coach and recruiter not to. Those trying to run him off because of the offense should be patient. As long as those recruits are coming in, we have a bright future. Donít pull a Florida. There is a McIlwain on every corner.
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Misleading headline, but a good article. Karma is a bitch.
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