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Old 05-12-2018, 08:52 PM   #41
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Spurt - youíve got your facts wrong buddy. Muschamp didnít get hit with all those injuries in his final season, it was his next to last season. In the 2013 season Muschampís offense was decimated by injuries and was awful. Muschamp fired OC Brent Peace after the 2013 season.

Muschamp hired Kurt Roper for the 2014 season, which ended up being his last season with the Gators. In 2014, Roper had all those injured players healthy and did not suffer the injury plague of the previous season. Yet, even with a healthy offensive roster Roperís offense was just as awful with a National ranking in the 90ís (sound familiar?).

Muschamp didnít get a raw deal at Florida by getting fired after an injury plagued season. He was given 4 years and his offense just never improved. He was apparently well liked at UF and fans wanted him to succeed, he just didnít win enough games. The fans were ready for a new coach and no UF fan Iíve ever heard or read on a message board believes UF made a mistake by firing Muschamp after year 4.
Actually you're missing one big thing, Muschamp's big injury was definitely year 3 at UF but he had some bad luck on injuries in year 4 as well. He was forced to go to Treon Harris, a true freshman who was no where near ready to be a QB, due to injury in year 4 which really hindered the offense. He definitely got a raw deal because let's say he has a decent year 3 without the injuries and has 8 or 9 wins, they were looking pretty solid prior to injuries that year, there's a 0.0% chance he's fired after that year 4 season. The year 3 season may not have been his last year but it was the reason that he got fired.
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Actually you're missing one big thing, Muschamp's big injury was definitely year 3 at UF but he had some bad luck on injuries in year 4 as well. He was forced to go to Treon Harris, a true freshman who was no where near ready to be a QB, due to injury in year 4 which really hindered the offense. He definitely got a raw deal because let's say he has a decent year 3 without the injuries and has 8 or 9 wins, they were looking pretty solid prior to injuries that year, there's a 0.0% chance he's fired after that year 4 season. The year 3 season may not have been his last year but it was the reason that he got fired.
Sorry Gotrice, youíve got that wrong. 5* QB Jeff Driskell was lost for the season in 2013 But Roper had a completely healthy Driskell to start the 2014 season and Driskell was healthy the whole time. Problem was that Driskell got Ropered and by mid-season was only completing passes to the defense. Roper benched Driskell mid-season.

Driskell transferred after the season to La Tech. In his one season at La Tech Driskell threw for third or fourth most (canít recall which) passing yards in a season for a La Tech qb and Driskell is now in the NFL.
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Sorry Gotrice, youíve got that wrong. 5* QB Jeff Driskell was lost for the season in 2013 But Roper had a completely healthy Driskell to start the 2014 season and Driskell was healthy the whole time. Problem was that Driskell got Ropered and by mid-season was only completing passes to the defense. Roper benched Driskell mid-season.

Driskell transferred after the season to La Tech. In his one season at La Tech Driskell threw for third or fourth most (canít recall which) passing yards in a season for a La Tech qb and Driskell is now in the NFL.
You're right mixed up my years. He certainly wasn't the same in 2014 as he was pre-injury 2013. The point still stands if everything doesn't go to hell in 2013 in ways that Muschamp couldn't control there's no way he gets canned after the 2014 season, I know I'm happy he did though. He may have been fired in 2014 but the main reason for his firing was 2013.
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You're right mixed up my years. He certainly wasn't the same in 2014 as he was pre-injury 2013. The point still stands if everything doesn't go to hell in 2013 in ways that Muschamp couldn't control there's no way he gets canned after the 2014 season, I know I'm happy he did though. He may have been fired in 2014 but the main reason for his firing was 2013.
Things happen for a reason, Champ is ours now and I feel he will take us to new heights, perhaps even more than Spurrier. He will get more of a fair shot here. Having said that, he does need to start beating Clem$ux, at least more than every other year.
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Things happen for a reason, Champ is ours now and I feel he will take us to new heights, perhaps even more than Spurrier. He will get more of a fair shot here. Having said that, he does need to start beating Clem$ux, at least more than every other year.
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I don't care if the UF fans love Muschamp or hate him. I'm just glad he's here at Carolina. Go Boom.
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He has had crap offenses and hired crap OCs. But he recruits!
At least he is trying some thing new this time..maybe.

all right, I'll give you Weis, but Roper was crap 3 times.

And I am still pissed about Ky. Even in the first year we should've beat them.

This will be his strongest offensive returning talent possibly ever.

Every one is pointing at the defensive losses. Muschamp can definitely handle those. We just have to wait and see if his OC judgement has improved.
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Glad to see the excuse train in full motion so early lol. Such a lazy response. The truth is Spurrier stopped recruiting and South Carolina fell behind. What he did is something that could take close to a decade or more to recover from
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Glad to see the excuse train in full motion so early lol. Such a lazy response. The truth is Spurrier stopped recruiting and South Carolina fell behind. What he did is something that could take close to a decade or more to recover from
Really? Wow! I never knew that and that has never been discussed here before.

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You're right mixed up my years. He certainly wasn't the same in 2014 as he was pre-injury 2013. The point still stands if everything doesn't go to hell in 2013 in ways that Muschamp couldn't control there's no way he gets canned after the 2014 season, I know I'm happy he did though. He may have been fired in 2014 but the main reason for his firing was 2013.
I agree that with a just a few more breaks and lucky bounces Muschamp would have been kept for another year as UF head coach. The majority of UF fans still speak fondly of Muschamp as a person, but he just didn't win enough games and a change had to be made. What's weird is that Urban won two NC's at UF and most Gator fans loathe him. Muschamp lost there and the fans still like him.

Had Muschamp been kept for the 2015 season, he would have likely won the East and still be the Gator head coach and possibly had a top 10 team the past few years. That 2015 team started Grier at qb, who Muschamp had redshirted in 2014. In-over-his-head-McIlwaine won the East in 2015 with Grier, no doubt Muschamp would have, in spite of Kurt Roper's ineptitude as his OC. I think Muschamp would have fought for Grier and Grier would still be a Gator and Champ would have continued to win in '16 and '17. Grier is projected to be the first qb taken in the 2019 NFL draft.

We're lucky to have Muschamp. I've said it before....he would have won a a couple of SEC East titles by now had he stayed at UF and maybe even an SEC Championship, so it's almost like we, South Carolina, hired away a championship coach from UF. It remains to be seen if Muschamp is a really good HC, but I think we're headed in the right direction. I'm more excited about the upcoming season than any in the past 5 years.
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Glad to see the excuse train in full motion so early lol. Such a lazy response. The truth is Spurrier stopped recruiting and South Carolina fell behind. What he did is something that could take close to a decade or more to recover from
A decade? Seriously?

Yes, Spurrier didn't recruit and made lazy assistant hires plus put Jr in charge of recruiting which was a huge mistake. As the great coaches left so did the recruiting and when the three 11 win teams players left the cupboard was empty which left us with a 3 win team.

Now we have a head coach who put together a recruiting staff like we have never had before. Muschamp didn't hesitate to fire Roper when the offense was still stagnant after year two and brought in Dan Werner to coach QB's and teach McClendon the RPO offense. He is recruiting at a high level that has improved with every class.

No, it will not take a decade. He will have this team competing for the SECE this year. He will also bring in a top 10 class for the 2019 recruiting cycle. Hilinski will be one of the top QB's in the country by seasons end. So while we may not be at the same level as Clemson yet we are not far away.
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Glad to see the excuse train in full motion so early lol. Such a lazy response. The truth is Spurrier stopped recruiting and South Carolina fell behind. What he did is something that could take close to a decade or more to recover from
We're currently the #13 recruiting class in the country, and we're leading with 3 5-star players for 2019. We've had top 25 classes the past 3 years. Muschamp did all he could right away to get us back on track and he has. We may come into this upcoming season a top 25 team, and if we don't we are just on the outside looking in. We have already recovered the recruiting damages.

I don't know how you could say it'll take us a decade from now to recover when we've already recovered.
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Glad to see the excuse train in full motion so early lol. Such a lazy response. The truth is Spurrier stopped recruiting and South Carolina fell behind. What he did is something that could take close to a decade or more to recover from
A decade, wow, what wishful thinking yíall have. You act like weíre coming off the death penalty. Weíre most certain to start week 2 a top 25 team with a good chance to knock off a highly ranked Georgia at home. If a decade meant 3 years then you would be right.
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If a decade meant 3 years then you would be right.
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Well isn't just a great thing to come and add your 2 cents into this conversation. Well No it isn't. Oh and we don't need an excuse. Time will take care of the we are better than you are tater mindset. No lazy response just the soon to be truth. Have a Taterless day , I know I will. Happy Mother's Day everyone.
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Year 2 and we're 9-4 and have a Top 15 recruiting class and have been a Top 25 class for the past two years. And we landed one of the best HS QB's in the class in Hilinski. And we are a preseason Top 25 team and a popular dark horse pick. And one of our star players is a projected Top 10 draft pick. And we had a first round pick this draft and was one of (if not the) most sought after tight ends.

We're not where we want to be, but according to your timeline, we shouldn't have all this until 2026. It's 2018.

We're doing just fine.
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Year 2 and we're 9-4 and have a Top 15 recruiting class and have been a Top 25 class for the past two years. And we landed one of the best HS QB's in the class in Hilinski. And we are a preseason Top 25 team and a popular dark horse pick. And one of our star players is a projected Top 10 draft pick. And we had a first round pick this draft and was one of (if not the) most sought after tight ends.

We're not where we want to be, but according to your timeline, we shouldn't have all this until 2026. It's 2018.

We're doing just fine.
Don't tease him. He's a millennial and doesn't know decade means 10 years.
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That's misleading. The title implies Will is somehow trolling UF people. Will is above that.

For all intents and purposes, let what happens on the field do the talking.
Our fans will do that for him.
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