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Old 05-22-2018, 05:07 PM   #1
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Gotta give it to y’all. I’m young by most people’s standrads on here and just about all of my recollection of Gamecock football has been Spurrier and Muschamp. The 90s were a dark time it seems like. 2015 was bad enough for me
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Gotta give it to y’all. I’m young by most people’s standrads on here and just about all of my recollection of Gamecock football has been Spurrier and Muschamp. The 90s were a dark time it seems like. 2015 was bad enough for me
Yeah it was rough even during the Lou years. It's why many of us don't get all bent out of shape after a loss.
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Yeah it was rough even during the Lou years. It's why many of us don't get all bent out of shape after a loss.
That 10 win season in '84 raised the bar of expectations and it really has never went down. It's amazing how much one big season and one beloved coach did for Gamecock football (Coach Joe).
The Brad Scott era was the worst, although Sparky wasn't far behind even though most people liked Sparky.
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Default Re: Culture climb: The steady progress of Gamecock football

It seems like Muschamp has moving forward. Sparky and Brad really did nothing. Lou and then Steve took us to the next level. Hopefully we can compete for the SEC East this year and every year. Watching our rival go to the playoffs and win a natty was tough. I just hope we can compete and beat them sooner rather than later.
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It seems like Muschamp has moving forward. Sparky and Brad really did nothing. Lou and then Steve took us to the next level. Hopefully we can compete for the SEC East this year and every year. Watching our rival go to the playoffs and win a natty was tough. I just hope we can compete and beat them sooner rather than later.
Spurrier was right (and I think Lou might have said it too), if we're good enough to complete for the SEC, consistently beating the upstate school will be an included bonus. No need to focus on them when the bigger goal is being best in the conference.
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Default Re: Culture climb: The steady progress of Gamecock football

I was at usc when sparky was coach - hey, at least we had Tanneyhill and Bennet over the top to break their hearts!
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Default Re: Culture climb: The steady progress of Gamecock football

The 80's had some fun seasons but inconsistent. JoMo's unexpected death right before signing day set this program back considerably.

Sparky Woods was a good guy but in way over his head as an SEC head coach. He did recruit Steve Tanneyhill.

Brad Scott gave us the first bowl win but all downhill from there.

Lou gave us hope when there was none.
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The culture climb did not start with Joe Morrison; rather, it did so with Jim Carlen, with those marvelous offensive lines and first eight-win seasons.

Before that, USC football history was pretty bleak and mired in mediocrity. We've at least become respectable since that time.
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The culture climb did not start with Joe Morrison; rather, it did so with Jim Carlen, with those marvelous offensive lines and first eight-win seasons.
...And Big George. We got a lot of TV exposure that was pretty rare back in those days.
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...And Big George. We got a lot of TV exposure that was pretty rare back in those days.
And that didn't hurt the culture climb one bit.
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Remember "Sparky Live" on TV?
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That 10 win season in '84 raised the bar of expectations and it really has never went down.
I guess perspective is everything, but that is not how I remember it....

82" was probably as unexpected, or more so than our Championship in 2010 Baseball. Players loved JoMo, and even replicated his behavior in Annapolis costing Carolina a chance against Nebraska. But I don't remember the cultere changing at all! Took some magical moments from Mike Hold and Al Mitchell to make that season special. Still sucks losing couple big games, but at least we beat Clemson arse!

For me it was clear, no way we could duplicate or replicate the success of 82 the following year. We just weren't built for sustained success. Joining the SEC changed that!

That's what my 3 brain cells remember! LOL
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Anyone want to explain to me why we were independent for so long? I've never understood why we weren't in a conference 20+ years. Or at least I haven't been accurately educated on why.
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By all accounts, pretty accurate here.
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Anyone want to explain to me why we were independent for so long? I've never understood why we weren't in a conference 20+ years. Or at least I haven't been accurately educated on why.

Back then it was not so unusual for schools to be independent. Several big time schools were.

FSU
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And Miami come to mind.

All were very successful in the 80’s.
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Anyone want to explain to me why we were independent for so long? I've never understood why we weren't in a conference 20+ years. Or at least I haven't been accurately educated on why.
Back then the really big TV money wasn't in college football yet and there really wasn't a need to be in a conference, and there were some perks for being an independent.
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I guess perspective is everything, but that is not how I remember it....
Then you don't remember it...and it was '84.

Implying it "changed the culture" is misplaced.

It did raise the level of expectations as well as leading to some of our best recruiting up to that time. I also remember game attendance went up, especially for our '87 & '88 teams.
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