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Old 11-01-2018, 09:47 AM   #41
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Can we? Technically yes. Clemson has to have a very off day and we have to play our best game of the season, if that happens we'll have a shot.

The reality? The Vegas spread is probably going to be around 20 points for this game, maybe more. That means the odds are extremely slim which reinforces the above point that we need Clemson to have a very off day against us. Our best game vs theirs and we probably lose by 14-24 points.
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Old 11-01-2018, 10:50 AM   #42
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:17 PM   #43
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No. Still don't have the talent/depth, and this team doesn't perform well in big games.
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Old 11-01-2018, 01:27 PM   #44
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no because man to man in the secondary will get us torched. press coverage will get us torched less (but that also ensenuates man coverage, but you can still have zone there)and cushions will get there guys wide open on curls, hitches and comeback routes, where they’ll nickle and dime the clock to death. and we can’t tackle very well in open space. they can run it a little bit too. all we need to do is man the f*k up on D and pop someone in the chest a few times tonslow them down and make them timid to catch the ball. oh one more thing, we have to score 30 + points on offense. there’s that too

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Old 11-01-2018, 01:35 PM   #45
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Default Re: Can We Upset Clemson?

I don't know what will happen. The last couple of games haven't been pretty. But....



...that is the biggest thing SC has going for them. Overconfidence by the tigers. Let's hope they are looking forward to the ACCCG and just think they are going to walk all over us again. On the flip side, it's at their place.

As Ace loves to point out in the smack forum (and I'm suprised he hasn't jumped in on this thread yet) the talent gap isn't as big as it used to be. Clemson's #1 strength is their D-line. I'd say our #1 strength this year is our O-line. On the contrary, our #1 strength (from a pure talent perspective and when they aren't dropping balls) is our receiving corps. Clemson's biggest weak point (and there aren't many) is their secondary. Those two things right there give us a bit more of a chance than folks are giving us credit for.
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Lets not forget that clemsux should have lost to texas a&m, that was there only test this year in my opinion and it was 28-26, all their other games are against garbage teams. Im not saying we will but we might have the best offense that their defense will face this year and i cant believe im saying that but its true. If, big IF, we play a complete game and score 10-17 points the first half we got a shot
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I was thinking about the Texas A&M game too. Lawrence was still getting used to the game though, and I'm sure he'll be polished for ours. Still though, like Lonnie said, I believe the big match will be our oline vs their dline. I feel more confident there than in years past. Can Bentley settle down though?
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Default Re: Can We Upset Clemson?

Can we? Sure. Anything CAN happen.
Will we? Hell no. Not even close.
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Default Re: Can We Upset Clemson?

Since we get their full attention, it's not likely. If we played them in the middle of the season packed between Wake Forest and Georgia Western, and we were Syracuse, it would be more likely.

I still don't think we've seen a complete game from Carolina in two seasons. If the defense could play like it did against Texas A&M and our offense could score over 20 points, I'd like our chances more.
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Old 11-01-2018, 04:56 PM   #52
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I upset any and every thing that supports clem taters at all times possible!

As far as this year's game goes yes I think we can beat them.
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We have almost no chance. Therefore, this is what I would do, and it could (and probably would) result in a blowout loss for us (nothing new in this series, lately.) But, there's a chance it might work. A&M threw deep a lot, with success. Go big or go home, right?

I would run our receivers deep again, and again, and again. PRE-READ Jake would know where he's going (not giving their d-line a chance to sack Jake) and if it gets picked, it's like a punt. The key is Jake putting it on a rope, which he can do, and avoiding the safeties helping their corners. Of course, I would mix in some draws and drag routes, but I would have a rotation of WRs on streak patterns all game. There would probably be some picks, but hopefully the SEC refs throw some hankies and we catch a bunch of long passes.

Yes, probably a crappy plan. Just about any plan in this game will be crappy. Jake throws a beautiful deep ball. He will have 2-3 secs to do so. I'd go in there with the attitude that we are going to run Clemson to death.
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We have almost no chance. Therefore, this is what I would do, and it could (and probably would) result in a blowout loss for us (nothing new in this series, lately.) But, there's a chance it might work. A&M threw deep a lot, with success. Go big or go home, right?

I would run our receivers deep again, and again, and again. PRE-READ Jake would know where he's going (not giving their d-line a chance to sack Jake) and if it gets picked, it's like a punt. The key is Jake putting it on a rope, which he can do, and avoiding the safeties helping their corners. Of course, I would mix in some draws and drag routes, but I would have a rotation of WRs on streak patterns all game. There would probably be some picks, but hopefully the SEC refs throw some hankies and we catch a bunch of long passes.

Yes, probably a crappy plan. Just about any plan in this game will be crappy. Jake throws a beautiful deep ball. He will have 2-3 secs to do so. I'd go in there with the attitude that we are going to run Clemson to death.


You're right, that would be a disaster. From what I recall, aTm did it with a scrambling QB making plays, not just lining up and throwing deep on out routes the whole game. We don't have the mobile QB to do that who is also a threat to bust a long run and getting the defense out of position trying to defend both. Our OL also can't sustain their rush while the QB just stands in the pocket.
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Our OL also can't sustain their rush while the QB just stands in the pocket.
You didnít read my entire post. And while I donít think itís a great idea, itís a gambit. When youíre grossly outmatched, you must attempt to be unconventional.
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I almost wonder if we couldn't try something like TN did with us.... a bunch of quick hitters to keep moving the chains. Get a block or two and you might actually break one even.
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We have almost no chance. Therefore, this is what I would do, and it could (and probably would) result in a blowout loss for us (nothing new in this series, lately.) But, there's a chance it might work. A&M threw deep a lot, with success. Go big or go home, right?

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Yes, probably a crappy plan. Just about any plan in this game will be crappy. Jake throws a beautiful deep ball. He will have 2-3 secs to do so. I'd go in there with the attitude that we are going to run Clemson to death.
We did that 2 years ago up there and got blasted. We need to run the damn ball with controlled short passes to kill the clock and only lose by 4 tds.
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Oh I read it all. To throw deep Wrs need time to get there. Jake needs time in the pocket. I don't think we can give him near enough time vs their front. Throwing some draws and screens which we struggle with would be equally difficult. Not trying to shoot holes in your plan and a gimmick is definitely what it would take but I don't think we're capable of pulling off anything like that. Using their aggressive nature against them would be the obvious to me. The major issue I see is even if we pull off a few scores in the 1st half, we don't match up well with their offense to keep it close. Just don't see us keeping up in a shootout. Lawrence is getting laser focused and our coverage scheme is still a 10 yard cushion at best asking our smaller Dbs to come up and make tackles. Look for more piggy back rides in this game.
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I’m not the coach so what I suggest isn’t worth anything. I just hope we play to win, and I think we will. I’d rather do that than concede and try to put lipstick on a pig.
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This Clemson team is a more complete team than the 2016 team in my opinion. Take from that what you will
Thats fine but we're not 2016 South Carolina...so I don't see how it's relevant. I don't think there's anyway we pull the upset, but that still is in no way related to what happened in 2016
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