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Old 12-05-2012, 11:41 AM   #301
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If you're Arkansas and you're offering $4 Mil plus, a chance to compete year in and year out for a national title, I'd think you could get someone of the Petersen, Patterson, Franklin tier.
Sometimes I don't think you know what you are talking about.. Bret B has done more than any of those 3 coaches. Patt/Pete have been hot names for a while now, but can they win in the SEC? TCU/BSU is great and all, but they are nowhere near surefire toptier home run hires IMO. Someone who has won consistently and recruited in major conferences is a bigger hire. James Franklin is a great up and comer, but he needs to prove himself more as well (he is one of the better recruiters out there though)..

Bret Bielema has won (and won big) at a top tradition rich Big 10 school.. that's more than Franklin, Patt, or Pete can say.
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Sometimes I don't think you know what you are talking about.. Bret B has done more than any of those 3 coaches. Patt/Pete have been hot names for a while now, but can they win in the SEC? TCU/BSU is great and all, but they are nowhere near surefire toptier home run hires IMO. Someone who has won consistently and recruited in major conferences is a bigger hire. James Franklin is a great up and comer, but he needs to prove himself more as well (he is one of the better recruiters out there though)..

Bret Bielema has won (and won big) at a top tradition rich Big 10 school.. that's more than Franklin, Patt, or Pete can say.
Well the feeling's mutual. I revised my initial statement to exclude Franklin, but I'm definitely not alone in thinking that Patterson/Petersen > Bielema. As I stated in my follow-up: I think he's a good coach but that it's potentially a bad fit. But I also acknowledge there's no way to know that right now.
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