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Old 04-14-2017, 01:18 PM   #381
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Because I don't like making assumptions, let me ask. Are you referring to your a yourself as Double L? If so, Kudos on referring to your own nickname, with another nickname in the third person. Also, based on your original nickname (or screen name) are you a lawyer?
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Old 04-14-2017, 01:36 PM   #382
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It takes less than five years to recognize a horrible and incompetent coach. If this coach takes over a world class, historically great, or talent laden team, he may be able to skate by for a few years but his fault eventually show as the influence of the previous regime's good staff and great players leave the program.

It takes less than five years to recognize a truly great coach. If this great coach is taking over a moribund, mediocre, NCAA-sanctioned, player-depleted or team that run a foreign scheme to his playbook, then it may take him about five years or so to get the bad players, influences, and attitudes away from the program. It may take them five or so years to install their playbook and have the players that fit the schemes.

So you can sometimes tell whether you have the exact right coach, or the exact wrong coach, within their first couple of years of employment.

You cannot be certain of the trajectory of your program under the other coaches that would fall on that spectrum until about year five when the program is totally theirs.

That is my belief.

That is why I am willing to give Will Muschamp five years to build this program before I start barking for another coach. Unless the program falls apart or is scandalized or clearly declined over the next couple of years, he deserves that shot (as any coach should).

Until he gives me good reason to change my mind, I will Trust the Process.

I'd love a quick fix with sustained success like anyone else here? Is that an exception to the rule though?
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Muschamp believes that recruiting within a five-hour radius of USC, "we can recruit good enough players to win the East every year."
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Old 04-14-2017, 02:14 PM   #383
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It takes less than five years to recognize a horrible and incompetent coach. If this coach takes over a world class, historically great, or talent laden team, he may be able to skate by for a few years but his fault eventually show as the influence of the previous regime's good staff and great players leave the program.

It takes less than five years to recognize a truly great coach. If this great coach is taking over a moribund, mediocre, NCAA-sanctioned, player-depleted or team that run a foreign scheme to his playbook, then it may take him about five years or so to get the bad players, influences, and attitudes away from the program. It may take them five or so years to install their playbook and have the players that fit the schemes.

So you can sometimes tell whether you have the exact right coach, or the exact wrong coach, within their first couple of years of employment.

You cannot be certain of the trajectory of your program under the other coaches that would fall on that spectrum until about year five when the program is totally theirs.

That is my belief.

That is why I am willing to give Will Muschamp five years to build this program before I start barking for another coach. Unless the program falls apart or is scandalized or clearly declined over the next couple of years, he deserves that shot (as any coach should).

Until he gives me good reason to change my mind, I will Trust the Process.

I'd love a quick fix with sustained success like anyone else here? Is that an exception to the rule though?
Well spoken, Mr. House. I think that most (obviously not all, in reference to our international hiring/firing business typhoon) believe that Boom has met expectations to date in terms of wins/losses and recruiting. If steady improvement continues, then we made the right call.

I personally am looking at 8-9 wins this year, simply because we were already playing at the level of an 8-9 win team during the second half of last year. We went 4-3 with losses to the East champ, the national champ, and an 11 win team (in OT). The performances may have been lacking at UF and especially Clemson, but there is no shame in losing to those teams, or South Florida. And UT was a quality win over the preseason East champs.

And with a modicum of improvement (which I expect), we could do even better. I don't see it as outside the realm of possibility to contend for an SEC East title this year - heck, we would have been in the mix last year if we beat UF.
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He wasn't "allowed" to. "Allowed" indicates he wanted to and asked to. He did the opposite. He went to Tanner. Tanner asked him to give him some time. Spurrier agreed to do so.

Your sentence should read, Tanner should not have asked Spurrier to stay on when Spurrier told him he wanted to retired.

I will agree with that.
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Me... a person that hires (And fires if need be) around 2 thousand people a year, a person whose very job involves directing teams of people that qualify candidates for extremely high level positions (athletic positions included), a person who directs a company that is nationally recognized as being incredibly good at this very thing and a person who is regarded as an expert in the field... disagrees with you.
What company is that?
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Because when it comes to winning and recruiting (which has a direct correlation to winning), they are the 500 lb. gorilla in the room. You can pretend that they are not there - but they are, so you might as well talk about them. That is the only way you can accurately address the question.
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