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Old 12-22-2016, 02:25 PM   #41
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The "true fans" are getting annoying as hell. You guys don't know what's best for anyone, including yourselves.
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Old 12-22-2016, 03:45 PM   #43
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Your attitude is irrelevant. We do nothing. Lackluster fanbases win big all the time. Some of the perpetually losingest (sic) programs also have rabid fanbases. How you feel about wins and losses is an individual choice that has no bearing on outcomes.
Fans have no bearing on outcomes??? Hahahahhahahaha....that's just sad. The whole reason there is sports in college is because there are fans to support them.It was clear this year in football when the stadium was half empty every fourth quarter. The athletic department needs to start shelling out some money soon and hiring not just head coaches but big time coordinators as well. The school needs to show they are committed just as much as the fans are. If they continue down the same path the stadiums will become even more empty than they already are.
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Mediocrity is what Carolina was mired in for decades. Like many of you, I have been a Carolina fan since the late sixties. The attitude of the Carolina administration up until the 1990's was that scholarship athletics were not much more than university club teams. Our facilities were poor and there was no substantial money coming into the athletic department. Things started to change when we joined the SEC, every facility we had was substandard and required upgrades. Since joining the SEC, Carolina has built a new basketball stadium, a new baseball stadium, has upgraded Williams-Brice several times, upgraded all non revenue athletic teams and their facilities, built a first class football practice complex with an indoor facility, built the Dodie to help our student athletes succeed academically, and have a new first class football operations facility being built now. The current BOT, President and AD are firmly behind the push for Carolina athletics to move forward. This is light years from where our administration was just twenty years ago. Our football won loss record for the past two years is not where anyone of us would like it to be, but that doesn't rest on Ray Tanner. Steve Spurrier owns the current state of our football program plain and simple. Boom is working like a mad man to change our fortunes and he will succeed.

Accepting mediocrity?? Not even close.
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Fans have no bearing on outcomes??? Hahahahhahahaha....that's just sad. The whole reason there is sports in college is because there are fans to support them.It was clear this year in football when the stadium was half empty every fourth quarter. The athletic department needs to start shelling out some money soon and hiring not just head coaches but big time coordinators as well. The school needs to show they are committed just as much as the fans are. If they continue down the same path the stadiums will become even more empty than they already are.
We have hired one of the best coaching staffs in the conference. A staff we could only dream about putting together under Spurrier. Not only that but have you seen the support staff that Muschamp brought in? (My guess is no) Its leaps and bounds better in quality and size. We have our own recruiting office now which is something Alabama, Clemson, and other schools have had for years.
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Some of you guys need to come in off the ledge it is dangerous out there. We need to have a little patience and see how things progress moving forward. Yes we should be upset about losing to our rival that is understandable, but if it were up to some we would be changing coaches and AD's every time we had a bad stretch of 2-3 years. Everybody take a deep breath.
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We have hired one of the best coaching staffs in the conference. A staff we could only dream about putting together under Spurrier. Not only that but have you seen the support staff that Muschamp brought in? (My guess is no) Its leaps and bounds better in quality and size. We have our own recruiting office now which is something Alabama, Clemson, and other schools have had for years.
So you think Roper is the answer as our OC?
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So you think Roper is the answer as our OC?
It is early to tell. But if anyone thinks that this staff is fine with 6-6 or mediocrity they are mistaken. Time will tell if we can get the athletes we need to get to the next level but they are making the effort. You can bet if Muschamp has any doubts about someone on staff then he will act on it. This is his shot at redemption.
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It is early to tell. But if anyone thinks that this staff is fine with 6-6 or mediocrity they are mistaken. Time will tell if we can get the athletes we need to get to the next level but they are making the effort. You can bet if Muschamp has any doubts about someone on staff then he will act on it. This is his shot at redemption.
Roper is not the answer just like he has never been the answer anywhere else he has coached. Muschamo and Roper can be friends outside of work, but if we want to win we have to be strictly business on the field. Dumbo is a great example, he took less money to pay big time coordinators.
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So you think Roper is the answer as our OC?
I think Kurt Roper is going to be an excellent OC once his young skill players mature and the talent level across the OL is improved. Very bright offensive mind with a great pedigree and is highly thought of in the coaching community.
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I think Kurt Roper is going to be an excellent OC once his young skill players mature and the talent level across the OL is improved. Very bright offensive mind that is highly thought of in the coaching community.
That's true for any coach. I look at it differently, we literally were one of the worst offenses in the country. We had enough talent this year to not be ranked close to dead last. You don't judge a coach who can win with great players its what they can do with good players and Roper showed he was unable to implement a scheme that maximized our scoring potential. He ran the same plays over and over. He never implemented any misdirection to help out the o-line. He litteraly ran plays that require a strong o-line and we all saw it each Saturday. We better get some serious lineman if we are going to win with Roper...im talking 5 star talent, which ain't happening anytime soon. Open your eyes to the truth.
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That's true for any coach. I look at it differently, we literally were one of the worst offenses in the country. We had enough talent this year to not be ranked close to dead last. You don't judge a coach who can win with great players its what they can do with good players and Roper showed he was unable to implement a scheme that maximized our scoring potential. He ran the same plays over and over. He never implemented any misdirection to help out the o-line. He litteraly ran plays that require a strong o-line and we all saw it each Saturday. We better get some serious lineman if we are going to win with Roper...im talking 5 star talent, which ain't happening anytime soon. Open your eyes to the truth.
We started freshmen or inexperienced sophomores at QB, RB, WR, and TE with an offensive line that battled lingering injuries and under performed all season. We got to a bowl game.

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Roper is not the answer just like he has never been the answer anywhere else he has coached. Muschamo and Roper can be friends outside of work, but if we want to win we have to be strictly business on the field. Dumbo is a great example, he took less money to pay big time coordinators.
Roper will be fine. All of our best skill players on offense are freshmen. We will be better on offense.
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We went 6-6 and made it to a bowl the year Kentucky had a chance to win the east. If you want to be excited about that then go right ahead.
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lol we aren't a rabid fan base, more like rabbit, as in bunny rabbit.
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first of all when I decide to attend the University of South Carolina it was not because of the Athletic program. I was looking for a first class degree. Our University is not all about sports. I am proud of our sports teams and I support them but that is not the way I judge the University of South Carolina.
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We went 6-6 and made it to a bowl the year Kentucky had a chance to win the east. If you want to be excited about that then go right ahead.
We were picked to win 4 games. Some picked us to win 2. Exceeding expectations is a good thing.

If you want to be mad about something, be mad that expectations are so low. Not that we have exceeded them.
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We were picked to win 4 games. Some picked us to win 2. Exceeding expectations is a good thing.

If you want to be mad about something, be mad that expectations are so low. Not that we have exceeded them.
Skeeter's mad because none of us are taking his troll bait. Sad isn't it? Clemson's doing well and all him and his tater cohorts can do is troll on their rival's board.
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We were picked to win 4 games. Some picked us to win 2. Exceeding expectations is a good thing.

If you want to be mad about something, be mad that expectations are so low. Not that we have exceeded them.
It's more that expectations are low for us so often that is the problem. I mean, you can be okay with that, or you can not. You can voice your opinion about it or you can choose to not do so. Just like what is going on this country you have 2 different groups of people with completely different attitudes that don't like each other lol.
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We went 6-6 and made it to a bowl the year Kentucky had a chance to win the east. If you want to be excited about that then go right ahead.
Played the cards we were dealt and overachieved. Took a 3 win team with a ton of young players and made a bowl game in Year 0. Laid building blocks for an explosive offense by getting Bentley, Dowdle, Turner, Edwards, Samuel, Dawkins, Hurst, and Crosby significant playing time. Took a defense that was void of talent and all around abysmal the year before and willed (no pun intended) its way to a unit that did not give up a lot of points, created a lot of turnovers, and were just all around stingy. I'd say mission accomplished for Year 0.
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