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Old 04-15-2017, 12:05 PM   #21
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Could very well be our best QB ever, but his record will never beat what Shaw did.
Not taking anything away from Shaw because what he did was absolutely amazing, but he was playing with one of the best defenses we've ever had at Carolina. Bentley doesn't have that luxury, yet.
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Could very well be our best QB ever, but his record will never beat what Shaw did.
You are right, but if you ask Bentley, he couldn't care less about personal records. It's team records and championships that he's trying to get.
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Not taking anything away from Shaw because what he did was absolutely amazing, but he was playing with one of the best defenses we've ever had at Carolina. Bentley doesn't have that luxury, yet.
Sadly not even close yet. With J. King getting hurt worries me even more about our secondary. He should be fine before summer, but still, cant be out of the gym too long, not him anyway because King is still to skinny it seems. What really worries me are the LBs. We are very very thin there. So thin that 2 or 3 injuries to the position would leave us with literally no LBs to fill in.
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He looks like he has been eating his Wheaties and putting in some serious time in the gym. Last season he looked a bit scrawny, but he is filling out.
I noticed that at the spring game. S & C success.
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Not taking anything away from Shaw because what he did was absolutely amazing, but he was playing with one of the best defenses we've ever had at Carolina. Bentley doesn't have that luxury, yet.
Oh, I'm not at all saying that he isn't a better QB than Shaw. I'm simply stating that it is already impossible for him to break a few of Shaws records that could very well stand for a long, long, time.

I also agree that a great defense helped Shaw with those records and we no longer have that luxury, unfortunately.
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Sadly not even close yet. With J. King getting hurt worries me even more about our secondary. He should be fine before summer, but still, cant be out of the gym too long, not him anyway because King is still to skinny it seems. What really worries me are the LBs. We are very very thin there. So thin that 2 or 3 injuries to the position would leave us with literally no LBs to fill in.
It's imperative that we run the ball and keep our defense off the field. Especially this season I like any other. I know we have weapons at WR and hurst is good, but we have to be able to run. Even when the defense knows it's coming. I would be happy to see Bentley average only 20 passes per game if we can run effectively. Two 100 yard rushers every other game or so is not out of the realm of possibility with Williams and dowdle. I know everyone wants to see Bentley sling it but he will throw some in there that aren't always smart, which is a gift and a curse. Rely on the run game.
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It's imperative that we run the ball and keep our defense off the field. Especially this season I like any other. I know we have weapons at WR and hurst is good, but we have to be able to run. Even when the defense knows it's coming. I would be happy to see Bentley average only 20 passes per game if we can run effectively. Two 100 yard rushers every other game or so is not out of the realm of possibility with Williams and dowdle. I know everyone wants to see Bentley sling it but he will throw some in there that aren't always smart, which is a gift and a curse. Rely on the run game.
I agree we need to establish the run, and I think we will. But I think Bentley needs to get in at least 30 throws a game. Thats what he is, a pocket passer, got to get him to work.
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I think he was referring to the math. Connor Shaw was 27-5 and perfect at home (17-0). Statistically, Bentley cannot beat the home record -- and he's not likely to win 20+ games in a row, beginning with this season. But he's considered more talented than Shaw.
Bentley is 4-0 at home as a starter. It is statically possible (albeit unlikely) that he could beat the home record. If he plays 3 more years, he could, in theory, go 25-0 at home. (:
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Sadly not even close yet. With J. King getting hurt worries me even more about our secondary. He should be fine before summer, but still, cant be out of the gym too long, not him anyway because King is still to skinny it seems. What really worries me are the LBs. We are very very thin there. So thin that 2 or 3 injuries to the position would leave us with literally no LBs to fill in.
We will be fine on D. King should be okay in a couple of weeks. Then we have Keisean Nixon and Chalmers with instant JUCO help, plus Jamyest and Tavyn Jackson on the way to join up with Fenton and Lammons.

I am more worried about Safety than CB, which is why King's injury is not a big deal. DJ Smith, Montac and Antoine Wilder are solid and Jaylin Dickerson looks like a future star, but we might need to use some CBs at Safety for depth.

LB is a worry. Skai, BAW and Brunson are the only returnees. Two proven, one not. We have a nice Freshman class - Staley, Greene, Bowen - but no experience, so we need for JUCO Thompson to get back to a good weight and play. The good thing is that we only play two LBs much of the time -we are fine with out depth when we go with a lot of Buck or Nickel alignments.
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We will be fine on D. King should be okay in a couple of weeks. Then we have Keisean Nixon and Chalmers with instant JUCO help, plus Jamyest and Tavyn Jackson on the way to join up with Fenton and Lammons.

I am more worried about Safety than CB, which is why King's injury is not a big deal. DJ Smith, Montac and Antoine Wilder are solid and Jaylin Dickerson looks like a future star, but we might need to use some CBs at Safety for depth.

LB is a worry. Skai, BAW and Brunson are the only returnees. Two proven, one not. We have a nice Freshman class - Staley, Greene, Bowen - but no experience, so we need for JUCO Thompson to get back to a good weight and play. The good thing is that we only play two LBs much of the time -we are fine with out depth when we go with a lot of Buck or Nickel alignments.
Our Juco help hasn't been very helpful recently.
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Def impressed by Bentley but everyone making a big deal out of a 55 yard throw from a top shelf college QB is weird. I'm 64 years old and give me three tries and I could hit it. I haven't thrown a football since the fall.

Love the kid though. More impressed by his gala video today. Cocky kid. Love it
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Before he's done, he'll be the best QB to ever play at Carolina.
If he stays for 4 years I think we win the SEC his jr or sr year.
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Def impressed by Bentley but everyone making a big deal out of a 55 yard throw from a top shelf college QB is weird. I'm 64 years old and give me three tries and I could hit it. I haven't thrown a football since the fall.

Love the kid though. More impressed by his gala video today. Cocky kid. Love it
Video or it didn't happen. 55 yards out, 3 tries, has to hit the center crossbar.

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It's imperative that we run the ball and keep our defense off the field. Especially this season I like any other. I know we have weapons at WR and hurst is good, but we have to be able to run. Even when the defense knows it's coming. I would be happy to see Bentley average only 20 passes per game if we can run effectively. Two 100 yard rushers every other game or so is not out of the realm of possibility with Williams and dowdle. I know everyone wants to see Bentley sling it but he will throw some in there that aren't always smart, which is a gift and a curse. Rely on the run game.
This is the best we've been at RB since Mike Davis was a freshman. If we can run as you suggested, we will be hard to beat. The runnng game will be Bentley's best friend.
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Def impressed by Bentley but everyone making a big deal out of a 55 yard throw from a top shelf college QB is weird. I'm 64 years old and give me three tries and I could hit it. I haven't thrown a football since the fall.

Love the kid though. More impressed by his gala video today. Cocky kid. Love it
If you are 64 and can throw a football 55 yards, you likely will need to see a surgeon the next day.

You're from Banner Elk. I'm not talking about from the top of the mountain.lol

By the way, that was an easy throw from Bentley. He could have thrown it 65 yards.
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Def impressed by Bentley but everyone making a big deal out of a 55 yard throw from a top shelf college QB is weird. I'm 64 years old and give me three tries and I could hit it. I haven't thrown a football since the fall.

Love the kid though. More impressed by his gala video today. Cocky kid. Love it
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Def impressed by Bentley but everyone making a big deal out of a 55 yard throw from a top shelf college QB is weird. I'm 64 years old and give me three tries and I could hit it. I haven't thrown a football since the fall.

Love the kid though. More impressed by his gala video today. Cocky kid. Love it
Prove it. Video or it didn't happen....
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But everyone knows he lacks arm strength and accuracy...
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Sadly not even close yet. With J. King getting hurt worries me even more about our secondary. He should be fine before summer, but still, cant be out of the gym too long, not him anyway because King is still to skinny it seems. What really worries me are the LBs. We are very very thin there. So thin that 2 or 3 injuries to the position would leave us with literally no LBs to fill in.
i have lifted enough in my day to know that every single gain he had made up until spring was lost. that is the downside to an injury. It only takes 96 hours to lose ground when it comes to weight training.
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i have lifted enough in my day to know that every single gain he had made up until spring was lost. that is the downside to an injury. It only takes 96 hours to lose ground when it comes to weight training.
What type of weight training are you referring to? I understand a injury can often make someone start over, I am not sure I understand the 96 hours part. I use to take a minimum of 96 hours between my last heavy workout and a powerlifting contest (as I got older, that extended to over 120 hours).
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