CockyTalk

Welcome to Cockytalk!

Thank you for visiting our forum. As a guest, you have limited access to view some discussion and articles. By joining our free community, you will be able to view all discussions and articles, post your own topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos, participate in Pick'Em contests and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, so please join our community today!!

If you have any problems registering or logging in, please contact our Admins. Thanks!

Go Back   CockyTalk > Gamecocks Sports > The Cock Pit

Today's Top 10
Posters (by posts)Threads (by views)Newest Posts Gamecock Headlines 
carolina_corpsman
Spur's Addiction
TastyLicks
donbgamecock
GoldenSpur7
2k15
The Yancey
gotrice?
GeoCocky66
kick_ball
More Bad News For Fl (956)
Huge Event on Monday (720)
Kent State fires str (572)
Rollcall! : NC State (470)
Best tv antenna (353)
MBB 21st in national (225)
Fantasy Football 201 (176)
GA Mangus has a new (75)
Home Opener vs UK
Kent State fires strength
2018 - Saivion Smith
GA Mangus has a new job
Premier League 2017-2018
2018 Commitment - Jonatha
2018 - Josh Vann - Commit
Huge Event on Monday
Bruce released by the Jet
More Bad News For Florida


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-18-2017, 02:16 PM   #1
xXSirSpurXx
Two Deep
 
xXSirSpurXx's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Columbia
Posts: 1,197
CockyCash: 500
xXSirSpurXx is USC mascot materialxXSirSpurXx is USC mascot materialxXSirSpurXx is USC mascot materialxXSirSpurXx is USC mascot materialxXSirSpurXx is USC mascot materialxXSirSpurXx is USC mascot materialxXSirSpurXx is USC mascot materialxXSirSpurXx is USC mascot materialxXSirSpurXx is USC mascot materialxXSirSpurXx is USC mascot materialxXSirSpurXx is USC mascot material
Default Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

Who do y'all think will be the impact guy coming in from the 2017 class?

Would have to think Shi / OrTre for Offense and Jamyest or Javon for defense would be the most common answers.
xXSirSpurXx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 02:47 PM   #2
CapitolCock
Game MVP
 
CapitolCock's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 1,549
CockyCash: 1158
CapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

I think it will be Javon will make a huge impact, but you could also make a case for Skai Moore coming back and providing some much needed leadership.
CapitolCock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 02:48 PM   #3
CapitolCock
Game MVP
 
CapitolCock's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 1,549
CockyCash: 1158
CapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot materialCapitolCock is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

And I'll add Ty'Son Williams for the offense. I was VERY impressed with him in the spring game. I know it's just a spring game, but even if him and Dowdle split carries, I feel bad for defenses. Having a high-quality RB on the field every single play isn't fun to defend.
CapitolCock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 03:09 PM   #4
Emery
1st Team All-SEC
 
Emery's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lexington SC
Posts: 3,643
CockyCash: 1950
Emery is USC mascot materialEmery is USC mascot materialEmery is USC mascot materialEmery is USC mascot materialEmery is USC mascot materialEmery is USC mascot materialEmery is USC mascot materialEmery is USC mascot materialEmery is USC mascot materialEmery is USC mascot materialEmery is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

Looking at the 2017 signees:

Jaylin Dickerson will make an impact, along with Jamyest likely. The secondary is thin and wasn't really that good. With Skai back in the mix, who showed great ability in covering passes, I think this is going to free up the safeties to be more active. Jamyest is good and also coming into a spot where he can play soon.

Kinlaw is in the same boat, too. Good player in a spot of need.

Honestly, I think we're going to hear more about Jaylin this upcoming season just due to his position and the upgrades needed there.


Offensively, it's Ortre.
Emery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 03:52 PM   #5
cack
ONE NINE 3
 
cack's Avatar
 
Male

2008 Cockytalk Award: 2008 Cockytalk Award - Given for: 2008 Homecoming King 2008 Cockytalk Award: 2008 Cockytalk Award - Given for: 2008 Best Signature Fark Off Winner: Award given for winning a CockyTalk Fark Off - Given for: Winning the Farkoff Hey Beer Man!: Award given to the poster we most want to have a beer with - Given for: being voted the person CockyTalk most wants to have a beer with 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 25,396
CockyCash: 0
cack is USC mascot materialcack is USC mascot materialcack is USC mascot materialcack is USC mascot materialcack is USC mascot materialcack is USC mascot materialcack is USC mascot materialcack is USC mascot materialcack is USC mascot materialcack is USC mascot materialcack is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

I think Kaleb Chalmers will big the biggest impact on Defense. He has everything already there to make an impact on day one. Kinlaw I'm really not expecting a Clowney-Ingram type improvement, which is what we need to see a real improvement on the line, so I don't see him being a big difference maker.

Depending on how they use him, Jamyest will have the biggest impact on Special Teams. I think he's going to be the next Ace Sanders.

Offense is going to be Ortre or Ty'son. Ortre could get lost a bit with just all of the weapons we have on Offense. Ty'son will be the #2 back at worse come opening day, so he's going to get his.
__________________
Follow me at One Nine 3 BBQ


Quote:
Originally Posted by smoovecock View Post
I agree with Cack.
cack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 04:00 PM   #6
PalmettoCockZ71
4-Star
 
PalmettoCockZ71's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SC
Posts: 365
CockyCash: 500
PalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his comb
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

Offense: Williams
Defense: Dickerson or Brad Johnson I think he will suprise some
Special teams: jamyest
PalmettoCockZ71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 04:15 PM   #7
carolina_corpsman
Household Name
 
carolina_corpsman's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 6,486
CockyCash: 500
carolina_corpsman is USC mascot materialcarolina_corpsman is USC mascot materialcarolina_corpsman is USC mascot materialcarolina_corpsman is USC mascot materialcarolina_corpsman is USC mascot materialcarolina_corpsman is USC mascot materialcarolina_corpsman is USC mascot materialcarolina_corpsman is USC mascot materialcarolina_corpsman is USC mascot materialcarolina_corpsman is USC mascot materialcarolina_corpsman is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitolCock View Post
And I'll add Ty'Son Williams for the offense. I was VERY impressed with him in the spring game. I know it's just a spring game, but even if him and Dowdle split carries, I feel bad for defenses. Having a high-quality RB on the field every single play isn't fun to defend.
I think they will be getting the bulk of the carries and it will be fun to watch. It also means that the coaches can keep some of the other backs fresh and cut them lose late in the 4th quarter to run all over a worn down defense.
carolina_corpsman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 04:19 PM   #8
PalmettoCockZ71
4-Star
 
PalmettoCockZ71's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: SC
Posts: 365
CockyCash: 500
PalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his combPalmettoCockZ71 is developing his comb
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by carolina_corpsman View Post
I think they will be getting the bulk of the carries and it will be fun to watch. It also means that the coaches can keep some of the other backs fresh and cut them lose late in the 4th quarter to run all over a worn down defense.
Denson and Kinlaw pounding the defense late sounds like a great sight or the way dowdle seems to get better with each carry maybe just constant dowdle in excited about our RB this year
PalmettoCockZ71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 04:20 PM   #9
sandstorm2001
Household Name
 
sandstorm2001's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Charleston
Posts: 6,077
CockyCash: 50700
sandstorm2001 is USC mascot materialsandstorm2001 is USC mascot materialsandstorm2001 is USC mascot materialsandstorm2001 is USC mascot materialsandstorm2001 is USC mascot materialsandstorm2001 is USC mascot materialsandstorm2001 is USC mascot materialsandstorm2001 is USC mascot materialsandstorm2001 is USC mascot materialsandstorm2001 is USC mascot materialsandstorm2001 is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

I say it will be Jamyest. I suspect he'll be returning punts. If it's a different new guy that wins the job, my answer changes to whoever that is. The disaster that was our punt return team seems to have been somewhat forgotten on the list of things that lost us games last season. This was arguably the weakest aspect of our game.
__________________
sandstorm2001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 05:45 PM   #10
pitchcock
2nd Team All-SEC
 
pitchcock's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 3,455
CockyCash: 29770000
pitchcock is USC mascot materialpitchcock is USC mascot materialpitchcock is USC mascot materialpitchcock is USC mascot materialpitchcock is USC mascot materialpitchcock is USC mascot materialpitchcock is USC mascot materialpitchcock is USC mascot materialpitchcock is USC mascot materialpitchcock is USC mascot materialpitchcock is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by cack View Post
I think Kaleb Chalmers will big the biggest impact on Defense. He has everything already there to make an impact on day one. Kinlaw I'm really not expecting a Clowney-Ingram type improvement, which is what we need to see a real improvement on the line, so I don't see him being a big difference maker.

Depending on how they use him, Jamyest will have the biggest impact on Special Teams. I think he's going to be the next Ace Sanders.

Offense is going to be Ortre or Ty'son. Ortre could get lost a bit with just all of the weapons we have on Offense. Ty'son will be the #2 back at worse come opening day, so he's going to get his.
I agree with you..

When (Defense) Kinlaw signed, he looked from his pics to have a worrisome weight problem.

Maybe he just packed on pounds after his season ended, and he'll show up in shape ready to play. I'm hoping.

If he shows up this Summer with a similar amount of extra weight on, it's a good bet he has to redshirt this year getting in shape. We don't have the luxury of quality depth to withstand that, we're going to need a lot of guys cycling in and out. His ability to play can literally make a difference on how our D looks.

Chalmers, Jamyest...they have the chance to contribute immediately.

Ty'son has a chance to contribute, he should get some quality carries.

I'm hoping Ortre heals up enough to make an immediate impact.
pitchcock is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 05:55 PM   #11
Gamecocks1137
Apparent Sunshine Pumper
 
Gamecocks1137's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: The Eternal Throne
Posts: 13,316
CockyCash: 1000062391893706
Gamecocks1137 is USC mascot materialGamecocks1137 is USC mascot materialGamecocks1137 is USC mascot materialGamecocks1137 is USC mascot materialGamecocks1137 is USC mascot materialGamecocks1137 is USC mascot materialGamecocks1137 is USC mascot materialGamecocks1137 is USC mascot materialGamecocks1137 is USC mascot materialGamecocks1137 is USC mascot materialGamecocks1137 is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by PalmettoCockZ71 View Post
Offense: Williams
Defense: Dickerson or Brad Johnson I think he will suprise some
Special teams: jamyest
So Jaymest is going to do the KR duties? Where does that leave AJ Turner? Seems like he is about to destined to ride the pine.
__________________
"I'd rather be anywhere other than Clemson."


Vendable Bow Youtube

Vendable Bow Twitter
Gamecocks1137 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 06:15 PM   #12
conwaycock2
Bowl MVP
 
conwaycock2's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: longs
Posts: 2,043
CockyCash: 500
conwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by sandstorm2001 View Post
I say it will be Jamyest. I suspect he'll be returning punts. If it's a different new guy that wins the job, my answer changes to whoever that is. The disaster that was our punt return team seems to have been somewhat forgotten on the list of things that lost us games last season. This was arguably the weakest aspect of our game.
Yeah that was bad beyond words. I wasn't exactly sitting on the edge of my seat waiting for Hurst to take one to the house.

Just wanted somebody who could execute a fair catch. That proved to be a very difficult find.
conwaycock2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 07:19 PM   #13
GSC2013
Two Deep
 
GSC2013's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Charleston
Posts: 1,184
CockyCash: 1000000
GSC2013 is USC mascot materialGSC2013 is USC mascot materialGSC2013 is USC mascot materialGSC2013 is USC mascot materialGSC2013 is USC mascot materialGSC2013 is USC mascot materialGSC2013 is USC mascot materialGSC2013 is USC mascot materialGSC2013 is USC mascot materialGSC2013 is USC mascot materialGSC2013 is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

Debo, Williams and Ortre. With Hurst at TE (Hes a future NFL starter, bank on that). In 2 years we've gone from having little more than Pharoah at WR to....one of the most potent groups in the SEC. With another future pro at QB.

This offense could be the biggest surprise story in the SEC. I just know down in Florida the Ole Ball Coach follows whats going on here and he sees this offensive skill group and has a little sparkle in his eye wishing he had these guys.
GSC2013 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 07:41 PM   #14
Three and Out
Game MVP
 
Three and Out's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,700
CockyCash: 500
Three and Out is crowing loudlyThree and Out is crowing loudlyThree and Out is crowing loudlyThree and Out is crowing loudlyThree and Out is crowing loudlyThree and Out is crowing loudlyThree and Out is crowing loudlyThree and Out is crowing loudlyThree and Out is crowing loudlyThree and Out is crowing loudlyThree and Out is crowing loudly
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

J-Will by far, with his leadership both on and off the field. This kid is special.
Three and Out is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 08:00 PM   #15
scfan2001
I'm comin for u
 
scfan2001's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Outback
Posts: 1,530
CockyCash: 200
scfan2001 is USC mascot materialscfan2001 is USC mascot materialscfan2001 is USC mascot materialscfan2001 is USC mascot materialscfan2001 is USC mascot materialscfan2001 is USC mascot materialscfan2001 is USC mascot materialscfan2001 is USC mascot materialscfan2001 is USC mascot materialscfan2001 is USC mascot materialscfan2001 is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

Nixon on d
scfan2001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 08:06 PM   #16
Ace Dilcock
2nd Team All-American
 
Ace Dilcock's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mt. Pleasant
Posts: 8,136
CockyCash: 650
Ace Dilcock is USC mascot materialAce Dilcock is USC mascot materialAce Dilcock is USC mascot materialAce Dilcock is USC mascot materialAce Dilcock is USC mascot materialAce Dilcock is USC mascot materialAce Dilcock is USC mascot materialAce Dilcock is USC mascot materialAce Dilcock is USC mascot materialAce Dilcock is USC mascot materialAce Dilcock is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by pitchcock View Post
I agree with you..

When (Defense) Kinlaw signed, he looked from his pics to have a worrisome weight problem.

Maybe he just packed on pounds after his season ended, and he'll show up in shape ready to play. I'm hoping.

If he shows up this Summer with a similar amount of extra weight on, it's a good bet he has to redshirt this year getting in shape. We don't have the luxury of quality depth to withstand that, we're going to need a lot of guys cycling in and out. His ability to play can literally make a difference on how our D looks.

Chalmers, Jamyest...they have the chance to contribute immediately.

Ty'son has a chance to contribute, he should get some quality carries.

I'm hoping Ortre heals up enough to make an immediate impact.
The answer to the OP - who is the biggest impact player - is Kinlaw (Javon, not Caleb). He is 6' 6" 330 - who is bigger than him?

Kinlaw is a DT now, not a DE. His attraction is as a run stuffer and a guy that cave in the middle of the O Line. 330 is not that big for his height and would diminish his ability to dominate in the middle. I don't think he is going to be asked to drop a lot of weight.

I am hoping some combo of Lil Duce and Bowen can provide some pass rush from LB, Brad Johnson from DE. We need quick twitch!
Ace Dilcock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2017, 10:14 PM   #17
sc455
Heisman Candidate
 
sc455's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: south carolina
Posts: 15,011
CockyCash: 71660
sc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot materialsc455 is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace Dilcock View Post
330 is not that big for his height and would diminish his ability to dominate in the middle.
Lol I disagree..he is huge.
sc455 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2017, 07:57 AM   #18
conwaycock2
Bowl MVP
 
conwaycock2's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: longs
Posts: 2,043
CockyCash: 500
conwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot materialconwaycock2 is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

They want Kinlaw in the 315-320 range. That's straight from the coaching staff.
conwaycock2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2017, 09:07 AM   #19
LegalCock
Heisman Candidate
 
LegalCock's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: NC
Posts: 15,327
CockyCash: 1000
LegalCock is USC mascot materialLegalCock is USC mascot materialLegalCock is USC mascot materialLegalCock is USC mascot materialLegalCock is USC mascot materialLegalCock is USC mascot materialLegalCock is USC mascot materialLegalCock is USC mascot materialLegalCock is USC mascot materialLegalCock is USC mascot materialLegalCock is USC mascot material
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

Javon Kinlaw. I hope.
LegalCock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2017, 09:09 AM   #20
sully1
Blue Chip
 
sully1's Avatar
 
Male

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: lexington, sc
Posts: 515
CockyCash: 500
sully1 has developed his gaff and talonssully1 has developed his gaff and talonssully1 has developed his gaff and talonssully1 has developed his gaff and talonssully1 has developed his gaff and talonssully1 has developed his gaff and talonssully1 has developed his gaff and talonssully1 has developed his gaff and talonssully1 has developed his gaff and talonssully1 has developed his gaff and talonssully1 has developed his gaff and talons
Default Re: Biggest Impact Player coming in 2017

Conway is right.....they want him 315 or so because we need help in the middle. Have you seen our run defense, especially our sorry Dline the past couple of years?

Muschamp still talking on the radio this morning about telling our incoming DL guys to come in ready to play and just try to be in good as shape as possible because there is tremendous opportunity for them to play this year.

Our DL still appears to need a lot of work for this season.

In regards to biggest impact players I have to think it has to be any one that contributes defensively for us.
sully1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Provided by SLB Development