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![]() Spurrier took over a 6 win team. It took him 6 seasons to achieve 9 wins. His first two seasons saw us go 15-10 overall, 7-5 and 8-5 (5-3 and 3-5 in SEC play). Notably, we didn’t get back to a winning record in conference play until his 6th season.
Muschamp took over a 3 win team and got us to 9 wins in his second season. His first two seasons saw us go 15-11 overall 6-7 and 9-4 (3-5 and 5-3 in SEC play). In my opinion, the turnaround by Champ has been far more significant. He walked into a horrendous situation. Time will tell if the success is surtainable, as we know we aren’t going to add 3 wins every year, but in perspective of what Spurrier did, it’s pretty remarkable. |
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Male Join Date: Dec 2009
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![]() Not apples to apples. Not even close. Too many variables to list. Good start by both.
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1st Team All-American
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Location: Columbia, SC
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Time will tell if he can keep improving and sustain the success. |
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Male Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Charlotte N.C.
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![]() IMO.....Spurrier took over a "Program" that was much worse than the one Champ has been saddled with. And believe me, it pains me to say that.
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2nd Team All-American
Male Join Date: Mar 2006
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![]() that 2006 team was probably better than this team, having the no.1 wr available for the whole season is the big difference. going into the 3rd year we're better equipped to challenge for the east and not get stuck in the mud like we did 2007-2009.
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2nd Team All-SEC
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Location: summerville
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![]() Hard to say. However, the SEC East was much tougher as a whole back then. I'd give the edge to Muschamp though. He inherited much less talent than Spurrier. Plus an Outback win is greater than a Liberty bowl win.
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Both coaches inherited programs that were a mess for different reasons. But Champ inherited a talentless mess. |
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![]() I think Spurrier being here made the turnaround for Muschamp easier. As someone else mentioned, the Program as a whole was not good when Spurrier got here. Not just players, but facilities etc. Spurrier helped grow this program off the field as much as he did on the field. As much as how he left it, burns me, he did do a lot of good while he was here.
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![]() I would say that Spurrier inherited a worse "program", but Muschamp inherited a worse "team". Spurrier's tenure elevated that program to the point where Muschamp inherited a better program overall. However, thanks to SOS, 'Champ has had to rebuild the team from the ground up.
Now, as also mentioned above, the SECe was a bit stronger when Spurrier came onto the scene vs when Muschamp did. It's a tough comparison due to those variables. I will say though, if CWM can get the OC/offense figured out and on track, in the end, he can easily be a better coach here overall than SOS......... |
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![]() How in the hell did Spurrier survive after year 5? 5 straight years of MEH results. And the deeply depressing PapaJohns Bowl loss.
I vaguely remember him being close to stepping away at that point? But maybe it was hooking Lattimore that changed his mind? Were people screaming for his head back then? I seriously doubt Muschamp would be given nearly that much latitude after even 3-4 years. |
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Not a good coaching staff, that’s for sure. Even by Spurrier’s own words, he didn’t put enough effort into biluildog a quality staff. No recruiting infrastructure. This is well documented. Recruiting is the lifeblood of a program. Spurrier has apologized for putting together talent-deficient teams towards the end. So, little or no talent in players or coaches and no recruiting infrastructure. Spurrier did help in upgrading our facilities, but even those were middle of the pack when he left. So how did Champ inherit a better program? |
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Everyone talks about how crappy the team was that Muschamp inherited yet at the same time people talk about how many upper classmen the defenses is losing and how the best players on offense are holdovers from the prior staff. I will agree that the QB spot was a train wreck created by the prior staff but when some of your top players are juniors and seniors and you've been here two years you didn't inherit garbage. The guys may have been poorly coached but they weren't void of talent. |
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