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Old 12-31-2018, 06:01 PM   #21
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Exactly, he was always in position, but hardly ever made the play.

Yes this points to some other posters points about the coaching might not be the only problem we are dealing with you have to football instincts and know how to make plays regardless of what coaches teach you.
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Old 01-01-2019, 12:12 PM   #22
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Yes this points to some other posters points about the coaching might not be the only problem we are dealing with you have to football instincts and know how to make plays regardless of what coaches teach you.
dl coaching will be addressed..quickly..
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Old 01-01-2019, 01:18 PM   #23
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Old 01-01-2019, 02:05 PM   #24
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Not knocking him, he was a solid player, 1000x better than I ever was haha. But in context, he was hyped to be Clowney 2.0, a 5* JUCO. Like almost all our 4/5 stars he didnt play up to expectations. He did play solid though. Many of our star recruits severely underperform.
Lewis was a very solid player.

It’s not his fault the fans and media hyped him up as the next Clowney.

Biggest issue he had was poor players alongside him. From 2010-2013 we signed 2 quality DL...Clowney and Quarles. The other guys we signed would’ve struggled to start for a SoCon team. Pure laziness on the part of Jr and Lawing.
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dl coaching will be addressed..quickly..
I would imagine Lance is leaving. He tried jumping to UT last year when Pruitt got the job, it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s actively job shopping.

Hopefully Muschamp already has a young, aggressive, top notch recruiter on speed dial.
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Like him as a person but BAW was a bust as a player on the field. Can't tackle a pillow that is laying down in front of him.
Nice kid, good representative of the program, but unfortunately one of the most overhyped kids I can remember.

As noted, it was frustrating for 5 years seeing him in position to make a play, then either whiff completely or jump on the runner’s back and get dragged 7-10 yards downfield.

It’s why some people don’t believe totally in the star rating system...even the “experts” rated him high.
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i still held out hope before the season he would make an impact here over his final 2 years, but i guess he ultimately decided he wanted to go a place where hes most likely to start. we shall see, wish him the best. looking forward for us i wonder if we'll do anything different up front as far as personnel and philosophy. do we start a bigger group up front and maybe kick sterling out to buck/situational de?
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TRue but we have SO many. Just in contrast, Clemsons 4/5 star guys always seem to live up to the hype. Same for UGA, Bama, etc. Ours seem like 50% hit or miss. What was the 5* JUCO DE in 2015 who was supposed to be our next Clowney? He ended up having a couple sacks and not much impact.
So somehow clemson recruits way more 4/5 star guys than us, and their guys "always" live up to the hype?

I get that the bowl loss (and especially the way we lost) stings, but this is silly.
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I would imagine Lance is leaving. He tried jumping to UT last year when Pruitt got the job, it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s actively job shopping.

Hopefully Muschamp already has a young, aggressive, top notch recruiter on speed dial.
Lance always seems to be moving around looking for the next best thing if you look at his employment history.
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Big miss and really hurt our progress. Blackshear was supposed to the dude, and then nothing. Another case in point why we are so far behind other east schools right now--when the studs don't work out and you're banking on developing 3 star talent and freshman to line up against SEC lines, it's not going to go well.
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I hate to see anyone leave but to say it is a big miss that really hurts our progress seems like a overstatement to me. He hasn't done much for the past 3 years and I don't have a ton of confidence he would do much next year. He seemed to pick it up some this year but he wasn't lighting the world on fire. I was excited to see what he could do but I think he only leaves if he realizes he won't be playing much.


I am glad that he appears to have gotten his life turned around - and I am a little frustrated that he wouldn't be more loyal to a staff that shepherded that turn around. There does not appear to be any animosity on his part so I have to assume he is leaving because he felt like he won't play a lot next year. That suggests to me that even he sees that he is not a big part of the future.
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I hate to see anyone leave but to say it is a big miss that really hurts our progress seems like a overstatement to me. He hasn't done much for the past 3 years and I don't have a ton of confidence he would do much next year. He seemed to pick it up some this year but he wasn't lighting the world on fire. I was excited to see what he could do but I think he only leaves if he realizes he won't be playing much.


I am glad that he appears to have gotten his life turned around - and I am a little frustrated that he wouldn't be more loyal to a staff that shepherded that turn around. There does not appear to be any animosity on his part so I have to assume he is leaving because he felt like he won't play a lot next year. That suggests to me that even he sees that he is not a big part of the future.

I didn't mean him leaving, I meant his lack of contribution. He was supposed to be the next big thing on the line, and there were a lot of those guys around the same years signing, that really didn't do anything but we were counting so much on them.
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I didn't mean him leaving, I meant his lack of contribution. He was supposed to be the next big thing on the line, and there were a lot of those guys around the same years signing, that really didn't do anything but we were counting so much on them.


Ahhh - that makes more sense. I think we have a lot of "unmotivated" guys from that era. It is disappointing that we either misread or miscoached so many guys. Maybe it is natural for the "old coach's guys" to fade out.


That said, I think the quality and contribution of our sophomores and especially our freshmen this year tells me that we are better reading and/or better coaching the guys were are getting now.


When we get 4 years' worth of guys fighting like the freshmen did this year, I think we will be a pretty tough opponent for anyone.
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Good luck young man.
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I don't have an issue with Blackshear not panning out: he was shot all to pieces, for heaven's sake, so really that IMO was what busted him. And we hyped him up, along with Lewis, Sawyer, Lamin, and Wideman, because we all knew how much impact a dominant DL had on the team's success during the 11-win years and 5-win streak versus Clemson, and we saw the DL depth drop off, and how the team's success dropped off as a consequence. And we knew we needed to replenish that DL depth, to maintain that success (which honestly is still true today)....

And those players were highly rated, in our own defense. That group was as highly rated by the services as any other group of DL we recently brought into the program, not counting Clowney. They just never developed into great players for us. I don't know about what will happen with Thompson, but I have always wondered if he is a true DL position coach, and not just a recruiting coach that gets stuck somewhere on a staff so that staff can capitalize on his recruiting strengths. Seems he's been a LB coach more often than he's been a DL coach. I'd much more prefer to have a dedicated DL coach that knows how to coach strong DLs, and has a wealth of experience in developing DL players. But I'd also like to keep the recruiting strong too....

Thompson was twice voted the top recruiter in the nation during his career, but both times were when he was on Nick Saban's staff at Alabama, and that kind of program support can skew the curve a bit, if you know what I mean.....

As to Blackshear, I always hoped he would regain his footing and become a major player for us, in part because the team needed someone along the DL to step up. I thought he was closer to becoming a contributor this season, and would help depth for next season, but really on a list of expected depth production, I had him pretty well down the line. We should have really strong DL depth in terms of numbers for the next 2-3 seasons....

Congratulations on getting your degree young man, and good luck in your future endeavors....
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I'm always the type of guy to wish the kid luck and thank him for what he's done, but having met this particular kid recently and him trying to pick a fight with me, all I can say is good riddance. I don't think he's a good kid at all.
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Shameik had two injuries in HS that dropped his stock and impacted his future. He was not close to a 5* buy the time he left HS, but we were focused on the rating pre-injury and got our hopes up a little too high. The shooting did not help either, but the ceiling had been lowered before then.

Qua Lewis was never a 5* DE. He was totally off the radar coming out of HS but was the #3 JUCO, and was a solid player for us. Just not Clowney.

Pickens is the highest rated D Linemen since Clowney - a 5*. Webb, Kinlaw, Anderson, Johnson, Sandidge, Enagbare, Belk are all 4* players, so the future is bright.
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Not knocking him, he was a solid player, 1000x better than I ever was haha. But in context, he was hyped to be Clowney 2.0, a 5* JUCO. Like almost all our 4/5 stars he didnt play up to expectations. He did play solid though. Many of our star recruits severely underperform.
I think our hit/miss rate on highly rated recruits is the same as every school. It might have more to do with you expecting more from them because they play for “your” team. Or that you build them up into something they are not. Case in point M Lewis who you are talking about wasn’t a five star on any recruiting network. He was a four star on all of them.
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Kid's been through a lot, hope he catches on wherever he goes and uses that degree.
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I'm always the type of guy to wish the kid luck and thank him for what he's done, but having met this particular kid recently and him trying to pick a fight with me, all I can say is good riddance. I don't think he's a good kid at all.
That type of behavior pretty much got him were he is then IMHO. He's lucky to have a degree and hope he changes over time to avoid stupid situations.
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