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Old 01-01-2019, 09:17 PM   #21
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And if that only comes from the agent then it'll be considered full of shit. You realize these teams will talk to our staff about players they're thinking about drafting right? So basically a phantom hand injury won't work. And I do agree he can excel in workouts, it's why him coming back can elevate him to a very high draft pick next year. He can go top 2 rounds in the 2020 draft, he won't go that high this year and it's a big financial difference especially if he finds a way to sneak into round 1.
Sure it would. “He didnt tell anyone. Didnt want to get pulled.” Agents do it all the time. They’re the lawyer for the player, they’ll craft whatever story helps their guy.
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I'd want the brutal schedule, it's a huge selling point to stay. Go out and dominate a couple of future NFL CBs and you elevate your draft stock. It's why kids flock to the SEC, the competition gives you plenty of opportunities for massive statement games against future NFLers.
What if they double him, and Bentley is under pressure constantly? Scouts will look at his film the last few years vs Clemson, Michigan, UGA, A&M and Florida. Another year of it wont help much if hes doubled the whole time, ESPECIALLY if Hilinski takes over to build for the future and now he has a freshman throwing to him.
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Sure it would. “He didnt tell anyone. Didnt want to get pulled.” Agents do it all the time. They’re the lawyer for the player, they’ll craft whatever story helps their guy.
You must think NFL front offices are full of morons if you think that ploy works. If a player actually signs off on that it's more likely going to hurt his stock for not being able to be accountable for his shortcomings.
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What if they double him, and Bentley is under pressure constantly? Scouts will look at his film the last few years vs Clemson, Michigan, UGA, A&M and Florida. Another year of it wont help much if hes doubled the whole time, ESPECIALLY if Hilinski takes over to build for the future and now he has a freshman throwing to him.
He's going to have a chance to have the offense built around him, he's probably going to see more doubles than he did this year but like I said it's an opportunity to up his stock. Just having reliable hands next year should be enough to do that. An ALL-SEC year which he is certainly capable of plus reliable hands will do that in a BIG way.
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You must think NFL front offices are full of morons if you think that ploy works. If a player actually signs off on that it's more likely going to hurt his stock for not being able to be accountable for his shortcomings.
Well NFL front offices drafted Manziel in the first round after he promised he was sober. Yes I believe players and agents make stuff up pre draft to try to help themselves. And some NFL GMs fall for it.
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Well NFL front offices drafted Manziel in the first round after he promised he was sober. Yes I believe players and agents make stuff up pre draft to try to help themselves. And some NFL GMs fall for it.
Because he was a QB. The QB position in the NFL is so big that they'll take gambles that they normally wouldn't at other positions.
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Because he was a QB. The QB position in the NFL is so big that they'll take gambles that they normally wouldn't at other positions.
True but others like Mike Mamula show that GMs can be swayed. We hear it every year, “X player reveals he played last year with X injury but never had it evaluated”.

Anyway getting off topic. With the 2019 schedule, our inconsistent QB situation, poor running game, Deebo gone.....just dont see what Edwards could truly gain. Drops havent been an issue in HS or college for him until this year. An outlier. Wont matter much
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True but others like Mike Mamula show that GMs can be swayed. We hear it every year, “X player reveals he played last year with X injury but never had it evaluated”.

Anyway getting off topic. With the 2019 schedule, our inconsistent QB situation, poor running game, Deebo gone.....just dont see what Edwards could truly gain. Drops havent been an issue in HS or college for him until this year. An outlier. Wont matter much
If he were to go it's an outlier that occurred the year he's coming out, bad year for the outlier. It will cost him a couple rounds. The decision to come back is simple, take a shot at going in the top 2 rounds or be content going in the 4-6 range. Big difference in money in the top 2 rounds. It's risk vs reward, there's definitely risk but there'a very big potential reward.
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Sure it would. “He didnt tell anyone. Didnt want to get pulled.” Agents do it all the time. They’re the lawyer for the player, they’ll craft whatever story helps their guy.
Stop. Just stop.

You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.

The NFL takes info from staff very seriously. They could care less what an agent has to say.

Do you think this is their first rodeo?
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Old 01-01-2019, 11:07 PM   #30
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Combine numbers for WR are huge and how they perform in pro days if he was to come back and get doubled
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Well NFL front offices drafted Manziel in the first round after he promised he was sober. Yes I believe players and agents make stuff up pre draft to try to help themselves. And some NFL GMs fall for it.
You have to take into consideration which NFL front office did that - It. Was. Cleveland. LOL!
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Not sure why we're having the discussion even. Vic Hampton was a round 4-5 guy... see how that worked out, he went UDFA. $hit happens.
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Not sure why we're having the discussion even. Vic Hampton was a round 4-5 guy... see how that worked out, he went UDFA. $hit happens.
He had character issues that many of us forget about.
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My advice to him is go pro. There's nothing football wise worth staying for. He will not improve his position by staying another year.
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My advice to him is go pro. There's nothing football wise worth staying for. He will not improve his position by staying another year.
In another thread people were saying the clemson mentality is to have their stars play all 4 years and contribute until the end. We rarely get our studs to stay for 4 years.

I think Bryan should come back. He had way too many drops early in the season and was shut down a few times. I don't see how he's drafted anything higher than 5th.

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My advice to him is go pro. There's nothing football wise worth staying for. He will not improve his position by staying another year.
It really depends on the overall draft outlook. Who's drafting WRs? Then again he still has to be good enough to make a roster or all of this is just a signing bonus and some camp pay.

Point being...you may be right....he may have a better chance of making a roster this season than next, but no one knows.
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I thought E. Cook was poster guy for going pro too early.
E Cook quit going to class and did not have an option to return had he even wanted that option

I think about Vic Hampton and Tori Gurley
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E Cook quit going to class and did not have an option to return had he even wanted that option

I think about Vic Hampton and Tori Gurley
Gurley made the right choice. Vic and Cook were were told they were going to make millions and it got to their head. Oh well, you live and you learn

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It really depends on the overall draft outlook. Who's drafting WRs? Then again he still has to be good enough to make a roster or all of this is just a signing bonus and some camp pay.

Point being...you may be right....he may have a better chance of making a roster this season than next, but no one knows.
For his draft outlook I'm pretty sure he received a go back to school recommendation from the NFL Draft Advisory which means round 3 or later is where they slot him.
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