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Old 01-04-2019, 06:16 PM   #21
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I hope he balls out and wins a national title and the Heisman next year.
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I am glad he is back. However, I hope Hilinski is given playing time so as to be ready for 2020.
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Yayy, we stay inconsistent, mediocre, and losing every big game we play. Awesome

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Only if he stays out of 5 pts.
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I have this Jake has potential point! Flashes don't matter, this program needs wins. I don't care who it is or what position, wins please. This dude is a good talent but it has not translated to the field in the way of wins. Why are we so tied to his potential that after 2.5 gull years of the the uncontested starter has still not materialized to the point that he can be counted on?

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Barring injury. Jake will leave here (statistically) the best QB in Gamecock history.
Those numbers do not = best QB. Getting some of his other stats comparable with national leaders is a better measuring stick.

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Those numbers do not = best QB. Getting some of his other stats comparable with national leaders is a better measuring stick.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/...t/individual/8
1) if the stats show that he is the best compared to the stats of other USC QBs, then YES he will leave here STATISTICALLY the best QB in Gamecock history

2) stats comparable with national leaders has little to nothing to do with Gamecock History. Our FB program has little history of great QBs on a national level, so when a Gamecock QB does something that's at the top of Gamecock QB history, don't slap it down for no reason. It's at least moving in the right direction.....
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:03 PM   #28
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Uhhh, of course he is. Am I missing something here?
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:17 PM   #29
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I'm glad Jake is coming back. If he can make the same improvements he made from soph to junior then it will be exciting. I personally think he needs the most help learning how to control his emotions. I think he will be a tremendous help in bringing Hilinski along.
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He is our best chance to win for now.
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Uhhh, of course he is. Am I missing something here?
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:20 PM   #32
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I have this Jake has potential point! Flashes don't matter, this program needs wins. I don't care who it is or what position, wins please. This dude is a good talent but it has not translated to the field in the way of wins. Why are we so tied to his potential that after 2.5 gull years of the the uncontested starter has still not materialized to the point that he can be counted on?

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Jake is currently 19-13 as a starter:

Connor Shaw (27)
Todd Ellis (24)
Garry Harper (20)
Stephen Garcia (20)
Steve Taneyhill (20)

Jake Bentley (19)

If he wins 8 games next season, he would tie Shaw as the winning-est QB in program history.....
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:43 PM   #33
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Jake is currently 19-13 as a starter:

Connor Shaw (27)
Todd Ellis (24)
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Stephen Garcia (20)
Steve Taneyhill (20)

Jake Bentley (19)

If he wins 8 games next season, he would tie Shaw as the winning-est QB in program history.....
Shaw was 27-5 as a starter, so through the same number of games Shaw was 8 games better than Bentley. Right?
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1) if the stats show that he is the best compared to the stats of other USC QBs, then YES he will leave here STATISTICALLY the best QB in Gamecock history

2) stats comparable with national leaders has little to nothing to do with Gamecock History. Our FB program has little history of great QBs on a national level, so when a Gamecock QB does something that's at the top of Gamecock QB history, don't slap it down for no reason. It's at least moving in the right direction.....
Ok, at the risk or being labeled a Connor Shaw homer, maybe these stats will explain it better.

http://www.espn.com/college-football...9/jake-bentley

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats...ge/connor-shaw

Versus national leaders: CS was 10th in a list that has 3 current NFL starters and 3 Heisman winners:
https://stats.ncaa.org/active_career...ngs?id=1416984

Jake's current stats (47th) :
https://stats.ncaa.org/active_career...ngs?id=1784290
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What about win percentage?
What about it? Even if Bentley went 15-0 in 2019 he wouldn't surpass Shaw's win %, but I'm sure he'd compare pretty decently with the others listed. I was responding to another poster who spoke of WINS not WIN %....
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Shaw was 27-5 as a starter, so through the same number of games Shaw was 8 games better than Bentley. Right?
Who the hell are you arguing with??? Go find him......
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Who the hell are you arguing with??? Go find him......
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Ok, at the risk or being labeled a Connor Shaw homer, maybe these stats will explain it better.

http://www.espn.com/college-football...9/jake-bentley

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats...ge/connor-shaw

Versus national leaders: CS was 10th in a list that has 3 current NFL starters and 3 Heisman winners:
https://stats.ncaa.org/active_career...ngs?id=1416984

Jake's current stats (47th) :
https://stats.ncaa.org/active_career...ngs?id=1784290
A waste of time. You stated above that being the best Gamecock QB statistically =/= being the best QB. I pointed out that those are not the same thing. A QB can tuck the ball and rush for 1000 yds and 15 TDs each season, but that's not typically what a QB does. A QB could have a strong run game with a premier RB for much if not most all of his career, helping out his efficiencies, while another QB may be depended upon to carry the offense game in and game out, for much of his career.

I pointed out that if the Gamecock QB had the best statistics, then he'd be the best Gamecock QB statistically. There is nothing at all in that statement to be argued against or to be proven factually untrue, and yet you pretend to try, by repeating yourself, but with more stats. You still left my above statement alone.

Again, I was pointing out that the other poster was referring to University of South Carolina QBs, in the history of University of South Carolina QBs. Continuing to point out statistics of other QBs who have not played at the University of South Carolina, as an argument against that point of contention, is a waste of time......
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Just a a poster said earlier, Connor was 27 and 5 more wins, in less games and won in big moments. Numbers don't tell the whole story. There are guys that compile numbers and wins but never rise to the level of difference maker when it counts. Jake just isn't that guy to perform in a big moments. Every one has been so high on Jake since his good November but to me all the favor he built were erased by the awful performances against Akron and UVA. Jake has had ample opportunity to be better, we heard all last off-season that he would be so much better this year with more experience, none of that translated to overall better play. He just isn't that guy.

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Just a a poster said earlier, Connor was 27 and 5 more wins, in less games and won in big moments. Numbers don't tell the whole story. There are guys that compile numbers and wins but never rise to the level of difference maker when it counts.
If the story that some one is talking about involves nothing but the numbers, then hell yes those numbers tell the whole story. I do not even believe the above poster who asked about being the best Gamecock QB statistically, even tried to imply that Bentley would be the most efficient QB, or the best rushing QB, or the tallest QB, or the QB with the best GPA at USC. I think he was only talking about statistics. Every one else has since tried to dispute his position, by talking about other things besides statistics.....
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