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Old 01-04-2019, 08:23 PM   #41
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If the story that some one is talking about involves nothing but the numbers, then hell yes those numbers tell the whole story. I do not even believe the above poster who asked about being the best Gamecock QB statistically, even tried to imply that Bentley would be the most efficient QB, or the best rushing QB, or the tallest QB, or the QB with the best GPA at USC. I think he was only talking about statistics. Every one else has since tried to dispute his position, by talking about other things besides statistics.....
My bad, I wasn't referencing the statistics thing at all. At the risk of over simplification, wins matter most. Jake hadn't shown, regardless of circumstance that he is the guy to lead to the next step in the rebuild. I could care less about numbers, I didn't when Garcia was there or when Shaw was there or when Thompson was there. It was the innate quality of Shaw and when Sober Garcia to make the play and rise to the moment that added to the litany of other stars that were on those teams. Thompson's 19 yard run in Death valley to best them for the 5th time was awesome but he showed an inability to finish games when he was the starter.

Jake is not devoid of talent and has only shown himself to be a class act, but he has not shown the consistency or the metal in big moments to be THE guy. Great qbs don't have great games every week but they don't vasalate from 500 yards against Clemson to borderline awful against Akron at home. He has had his chance to size this program with no competition apparently and the only stamp he has put on the program is inconsistency and potential unrealized.

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Old 01-04-2019, 08:26 PM   #42
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A waste of time. You stated above that being the best Gamecock QB statistically =/= being the best QB...
I posted "Those numbers do not = best QB." What were "those numbers"? Until you accurately read what someone posted, you're going to look stupid arguing something that isn't.
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I pointed out that those are not the same thing. A QB can tuck the ball and rush for 1000 yds and 15 TDs each season, but that's not typically what a QB does. A QB could have a strong run game with a premier RB for much if not most all of his career, helping out his efficiencies, while another QB may be depended upon to carry the offense game in and game out, for much of his career.
Where in these comments below, did you post your comments above?

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2) stats comparable with national leaders has little to nothing to do with Gamecock History. Our FB program has little history of great QBs on a national level, so when a Gamecock QB does something that's at the top of Gamecock QB history, don't slap it down for no reason. It's at least moving in the right direction.....
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You still left my above statement alone.
I didn’t really give a shit about your statement. Unless JB can improve dramatically on his passing stats, he will not become the “best QB ” at USC and anyone with common sense is aware of this. Passing efficiency and passer ratings are measurable stats that enable us to view QB v. QB comparisons.
Anyone who knows football understands this. If you want to keep arguing, have a go.
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Only if he stays out of 5 pts.
Hell maybe he needs to go to five points.. seemed to work for garcia. At least he beat some ranked teams
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^^this...x 10.

Jake was being projected as a 6th round to free agent type player. Nothing to see here.

As previously mention, I really...really hope there is an OPEN competition in the Spring...and if there is any question of who is QB1 after that...it should be decided in Fall Camp.

We need a better playmaker at QB...going through progressions in the pass games, running the ball in the RPO looks & limiting turnovers.

May the BEST qb start vs UNC...Bentley, Dak, Urich or Hilinski.

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Who the hell are you arguing with??? Go find him......
Is asking questions argumentative?
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Old 01-04-2019, 08:59 PM   #47
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On a slightly related note, I'd like to take this moment to announce to the forums for the first time: I will not be entering the 2018 NFL Draft.
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So in one thread we complain we cant keep guys for four years. Now we start to and we complain. Bipolar fanbase.
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Glad to have him back. But he really didn’t light it up to make the jump to the NFL anyways.
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You know it's kinda odd that fewer people were complaining about Jake the entire second half of the season and the none after the Clemson game. One bad bowl game and people turned real quick. Glad to have him back, I hope he silences all you haters.
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I don’t think JB would have made the NFL this year. After the bowl game damper I doubt he would even make that Canadian league. I hope I’m wrong. On the same token Bentley doesn’t have a stable of stud RBs to hand the ball off to or WRs to throw to. When we played UGA their QB didn’t even have to work because of that. Muschamp needed to recruit some players like that yesterday.

Hopefully next year there will be some competition for the starting position on QB.

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^^this...x 10.

Jake was being projected as a 6th round to free agent type player. Nothing to see here.

As previously mention, I really...really hope there is an OPEN competition in the Spring...and if there is any question of who is QB1 after that...it should be decided in Fall Camp.

We need a better playmaker at QB...going through progressions in the pass games, running the ball in the RPO looks & limiting turnovers.

May the BEST qb start vs UNC...Bentley, Dak, Urich or Hilinski.

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You know it's kinda odd that fewer people were complaining about Jake the entire second half of the season and the none after the Clemson game. One bad bowl game and people turned real quick. Glad to have him back, I hope he silences all you haters.
Nobody hates him but we do expect him to play better than he did this year. He was on off all year so he needs to be more consistent. Factual info is not hating. Our best win this year was Mizzou think about that.
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Nobody hates him but we do expect him to play better than he did this year. He was on off all year so he needs to be more consistent. Factual info is not hating. Our best win this year was Mizzou think about that.
Good points... but my statement is that after the aTm game Jake had an outstanding se one half with very consistent play. One bad bowl game seemed to have wiped a lot of people's memory. I contribute the bad game on Jake's part mostly to the gameplan by McClendon in the bowl as well. Just my opinion though I suppose
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Hell maybe he needs to go to five points.. seemed to work for garcia. At least he beat some ranked teams
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I’ll set the over/under at 50 for career interceptions.
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Good points... but my statement is that after the aTm game Jake had an outstanding se one half with very consistent play. One bad bowl game seemed to have wiped a lot of people's memory. I contribute the bad game on Jake's part mostly to the gameplan by McClendon in the bowl as well. Just my opinion though I suppose
He threw 8 interceptions in 7 games after aTm, which he only had 2 good possessions in that “amazing performance”.
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I am glad he is back. However, I hope Hilinski is given playing time so as to be ready for 2020.
Yeah, my main concern after that debacle of a bowl is that Muschamp is in with Jake come hell-or-high-water. It was mystifying JB wasn't pulled - WM might be showing some of the reasons he was run out of Gainesville.

I would hope that Joyner, Ulrich and Hilsinki at least get a fair shot in practice at beating him out.
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Jake was actually on target to start the bowl game but the receivers were droping ball after ball or running the wrong route and it just destoyed his confidence and he fell apart. The pass he threw to Vann , when he tried running before catching, was dead between the numbers.
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I echo the hope for a genuine open competition for qb. I am not optimistic that it will happen.
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