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Old 01-09-2019, 05:10 PM   #121
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Lawrence is definitely a good quarterback, but I'm pretty sure Clemson would have the same outcome if Bentley and Lawrence switched teams. Most of Jake's worst performances have come as a result of the backs and receivers dropping easy catches and not seeing huge holes open up.
Those things happened some (early in the season, but got drastically better in the 2nd half of the year), but the passes that Rico had to turn and twist his body to catch, the passes thrown behind Shi, and the plethora of passes that 6'4" Bryan Edwards couldn't even sky to reach didn't help throughout the season either.
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Those things happened some (early in the season, but got drastically better in the 2nd half of the year), but the passes that Rico had to turn and twist his body to catch, the passes thrown behind Shi, and the plethora of passes that 6'4" Bryan Edwards couldn't even sky to reach didn't help throughout the season either.
Did you see the catch Ross made in the National Championship game? WRs bail out QBs all the time.
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Bentley is awful. Get Jalen Hurts.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:27 PM   #125
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Bentley is awful. Get Jalen Hurts.
Was just thinking that yesterday. We’re kind of in a position where we can’t though. Not that Bentley has been good. But he’s a senior who has been ok-ish. I’m all for opening up the position to competition with the QBs on our roster, mainly Hilinski, but it would be a bad to look to go out and get a transfer. And, unfortunately, it is complicated because his dad is on staff.

However, while it would be a bad look, it would show a championship mentality. Not sure we are there.

We’re just kind of stuck.
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Jalen Hurts decided to stay at Alabama even though he wasn't the starter.
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Old 01-10-2019, 01:13 PM   #127
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Jalen Hurts decided to stay at Alabama even though he wasn't the starter.
he is now looking around again...articles on 247 about potential landing spots
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Why would you do that?

Lets say, theoretically, that we were going to go away from Jake Bentley next year. Would you start the one and done player that had accuracy issues with one of the nation's best O-lines, or one of your young players (Dax or Hilinski) that you could develop over the next couple of years?
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Why would you do that?

Lets say, theoretically, that we were going to go away from Jake Bentley next year. Would you start the one and done player that had accuracy issues with one of the nation's best O-lines, or one of your young players (Dax or Hilinski) that you could develop over the next couple of years?


He's still better than Bentley.
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I love it when Bentley is "on"

But even then I hate that our program continuously succumbs to nepotism.

It happened with Lou and Skip.

It happened with Spurrier and Jr.

It's happening right now with the Bentleys.

IMO, that's never a good thing.
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Old 01-10-2019, 03:55 PM   #131
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He's still better than Bentley.
Jalen is in that tier of QBs just below the championship-caliber guys. So, yes, heís a very good college QB, but not great. If Jalen is Tier 2, Jake is somewhere down around Tier 4.

That said, even more than the Jake/Bobby factor I donít think this is feasible for the Hilinski factor. You just recruited a kid from California whose whole family moved out here and bought a house. Iím pretty sure Champ has no intention of giving Ryan a fair shot at the job this season, but bringing in a transfer would really just be downright insulting to Ryan.

Who knows what the discussions have been though. Maybe Ryan is cool with redshirting. I do believe heíd beat Jake for the job if given a fair shot.
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Did you see the catch Ross made in the National Championship game? WRs bail out QBs all the time.
As a whole, yes, WR's bail out QB's 'all the time' on, let's say, 25% of the throws.
Bentley's WRs bail him out 'all the time' on 60% of his throws (but I swear, I don't know if I've seen Edwards catch even one ball that he didn't have to leap or dive for).
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Jalen is in that tier of QBs just below the championship-caliber guys. So, yes, heís a very good college QB, but not great. If Jalen is Tier 2, Jake is somewhere down around Tier 4.

That said, even more than the Jake/Bobby factor I donít think this is feasible for the Hilinski factor. You just recruited a kid from California whose whole family moved out here and bought a house. Iím pretty sure Champ has no intention of giving Ryan a fair shot at the job this season, but bringing in a transfer would really just be downright insulting to Ryan.

Who knows what the discussions have been though. Maybe Ryan is cool with redshirting. I do believe heíd beat Jake for the job if given a fair shot.


Seemed to work for Saban and Dabo...but why would Boom do what they are doing...I mean, what do they know about coaching???
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Old 01-10-2019, 09:49 PM   #134
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Seemed to work for Saban and Dabo...but why would Boom do what they are doing...I mean, what do they know about coaching???
For real.

Seriously though, Champ didn't even give a single snap to Scar in the game against Akron. Akron. Last home game for a senior who's done his part for the team, came off the bench to win a huge game against Mizzou and then quietly went back to the bench to collect dust for the season.

NO way he's going to give a true freshman a chance to unseat the established senior.

I do believe Champ is probably afraid of the repercussions if he were to bench Bentley. It's starting to look like he did hire Bobby to get Jake. Now that Jake isn't all that great, it's like "well, shoot, what now?"
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I do believe Champ is probably afraid of the repercussions if he were to bench Bentley. It's starting to look like he did hire Bobby to get Jake. Now that Jake isn't all that great, it's like "well, shoot, what now?"
I've also been speculating on if there was some type of side deal to play Jake... or some other "facts" behind the scene here that the general public couldn't possibly be made aware of.
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I've also been speculating on if there was some type of side deal to play Jake... or some other "facts" behind the scene here that the general public couldn't possibly be made aware of.




That is the ONLY logical answer. It has happened in the past. A certain QB had to break his leg to get benched.
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Bentley is certainly not awful. We're a better team next year with him on it than him being off it.
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Bentley is certainly not awful. We're a better team next year with him on it than him being off it.
I’m hoping RH is going to really push him in practice. It will be the first time that’s happened. Real competition makes everybody better.
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Iím hoping RH is going to really push him in practice. It will be the first time thatís happened. Real competition makes everybody better.
You and me both. But just as a rule I never go in expecting great things out of a true freshman, especially QB or OL. I'm hoping Hilinski can do it but it's wait and see time because no telling if he'll pick everything up right away like a fish to water or if he'll have a long adjustment process.
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Barring injury. Jake will leave here (statistically) the best QB in Gamecock history.
That right there is why I think that some people judge Jake with their eyes and not based on the relevant rational statistics......To be clear, I was at the Belk Bowl, my first bowl game, and that showing was awful by our guys....If Virginian hadn't missed some opportunities it would have likely 35+-0. I am not happy when we have a bad day.....But I am aware of the fact that it is ridiculous to hammer 18-22 years old, whether booze are on board or not. There is level headed criticism, and there is the guy a few rows up from me at the Belk Bowl who yelled that Jake was a "Son of a Bitch." And regaled us with other distasteful notions he had of Jake and the rest of the team.


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