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Old 01-08-2019, 03:20 AM   #1
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I don't even watch CFB these days because it's become too predictable. However, seeing Clemson where they are is irritating. I have heard that they and Alabama are now stealing all of the five star recruits. So why not try and find the next Connor Shaw? Connor was not just a QB for our team, he was the anchor. He was no five star either.
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Old 01-08-2019, 05:22 AM   #2
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I don't even watch CFB these days because it's become too predictable. However, seeing Clemson where they are is irritating. I have heard that they and Alabama are now stealing all of the five star recruits. So why not try and find the next Connor Shaw? Connor was not just a QB for our team, he was the anchor. He was no five star either.
He never won anything meaningful either.
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Old 01-08-2019, 05:28 AM   #3
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He never won anything meaningful either.
We had a few great years, but I canít argue with this sentiment looking back.
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Old 01-08-2019, 05:37 AM   #4
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After beating Clemson 5-straight, Clemson’s mindset changed. Doing what it takes to have the best assistants, best recruits, and winning at all costs became an attitude. Until we take on a championship mentality, like using all your bowl practices, we will remain mediocre. No amount of 3-star qbs will change that.

Maybe Muschamp will turn us into an elite program by 2025, but I’m not holding my breath.
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After beating Clemson 5-straight, Clemsonís mindset changed. Doing what it takes to have the best assistants, best recruits, and winning at all costs became an attitude. Until we take on a championship mentality, like using all your bowl practices, we will remain mediocre. No amount of 3-star qbs will change that.

Maybe Muschamp will turn us into an elite program by 2025, but Iím not holding my breath.
I Honestly donít see muschamp lasting here that long sadly.
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Old 01-08-2019, 06:34 AM   #6
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We need alot more than character. We need depth and good coaching. Team identity and leadership. We need a true brand. Something kids want to be a part of. I think that's the big difference. Clemson has created a unique culture that isn't really mimicked anywhere that I can see.
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Both Clemson and Alabama get great players but they arent all 5 stars. Jacob's for bama was a 3 star, Etienne I think was a 3 star. Clemsons o line gave so much time and Hyatt was a 5 star but most of the other guys were 3 stars. Development and coaching go a long way. Alabama always has great linebackers and look at the recruiting player rankings for some there best players 3 and low 4 stars. Getting them on campus, coaching em up is just as important if not more than just bringing in a guy who a recruiting service says is a 5 star.
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Both Clemson and Alabama get great players but they arent all 5 stars. Jacob's for bama was a 3 star, Etienne I think was a 3 star. Clemsons o line gave so much time and Hyatt was a 5 star but most of the other guys were 3 stars. Development and coaching go a long way. Alabama always has great linebackers and look at the recruiting player rankings for some there best players 3 and low 4 stars. Getting them on campus, coaching em up is just as important if not more than just bringing in a guy who a recruiting service says is a 5 star.
Bingo.

When you have coaches and recruiters/scouts who are just flat out better than everyone, you create your own luck. Things like this don't happen by accident.
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Every team but Clemson is searching for something now...just how it goes
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We need alot more than character. We need depth and good coaching. Team identity and leadership. We need a true brand. Something kids want to be a part of. I think that's the big difference. Clemson has created a unique culture that isn't really mimicked anywhere that I can see.
And they sell their culture extremely well.
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I don't even watch CFB these days because it's become too predictable. However, seeing Clemson where they are is irritating. I have heard that they and Alabama are now stealing all of the five star recruits. So why not try and find the next Connor Shaw? Connor was not just a QB for our team, he was the anchor. He was no five star either.
That's where I stopped reading.
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I think muschamp made a bad move by immediately getting rid of jack easterby..what clemson sells to a recruit is what muschamp cut.

Regardless of what many here may believe, many parents like to send kids to schools where they truly feel their kids will be looked after. Clemson is presented as family and That's why they stay. And truthfully it pains me to say it but if I had an elite son I would definitely consider clemtech.

Dabo gets laughed at and mocked for his religious views but believe it or not many people like that. And I do think they are genuine and not manufactured..you can't consistently live what you don't preach without the closest around you figuring it out.
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Let's be honest. Call me salty all you want. We need to get on Clemson's level and "do what it takes" to get these kids in here. If you know what I mean!
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Let's be honest. Call me salty all you want. We need to get on Clemson's level and "do what it takes" to get these kids in here. If you know what I mean!
We need to make smart coaching staff decisions. Bringing on Thomas Brown is a really good start. Now, we need Muschamp to hit it out of the park with the D-Line coach.

Also, if there is any way he can get Durkin on board, he needs to do it sooner than later.
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We need to make smart coaching staff decisions. Bringing on Thomas Brown is a really good start. Now, we need Muschamp to hit it out of the park with the D-Line coach.

Also, if there is any way he can get Durkin on board, he needs to do it sooner than later.
Durkin is damaged goods right now
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I think muschamp made a bad move by immediately getting rid of jack easterby..what clemson sells to a recruit is what muschamp cut.

Regardless of what many here may believe, many parents like to send kids to schools where they truly feel their kids will be looked after. Clemson is presented as family and That's why they stay. And truthfully it pains me to say it but if I had an elite son I would definitely consider clemtech.

Dabo gets laughed at and mocked for his religious views but believe it or not many people like that. And I do think they are genuine and not manufactured..you can't consistently live what you don't preach without the closest around you figuring it out.
Lets hope Boom doesn't turn our program into a PED-swilling cult.
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I Honestly donít see muschamp lasting here that long sadly.
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