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Old 01-08-2019, 02:10 PM   #41
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Who cares... I am tired of losing
Then let's have our recruits show up with wads on cash on the internet. Allow people on the field for the $100 handshakes. If you ain't winning, you ain't cheating. Everyone else is doing it. Go for it.
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Old 01-08-2019, 02:16 PM   #42
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Annual beatdown by the taters = short leash.
At this rate, that's happening to everyone. They made the #1 and #3 teams in CFB look like a light stroll.

This is a really, really tough job right now. Not only do you have Clemson as an instate rival and national power, but Georgia is at the top of the SEC East (and also a national power) and Florida is getting better. Then, if you happen to surpass those teams in the right year, you still have to get past Alabama (another national power) to presumably go to the playoff.

We need a lot more than "character."
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Old 01-08-2019, 02:22 PM   #43
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The original post/thread title implies the current guys we have on our team aren't of high character.

I don't know if I would agree with that.
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Old 01-08-2019, 03:21 PM   #44
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Anyone else read the JC Shurburtt - Gamecocks have to get back to the "entry point" - piece on TBS?

It was a pretty decent read.
Great read. I really like the comment by NOLAcock on instate recruiting vs Clemson. Thatís a decent sign for our future. Muschamp had a lot of work to do with instate relationships when he got here, and it is finally paying off. That should help us in the future if he can keep us competitive in every football game. The UVA game was a step back in that aspect.
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Old 01-08-2019, 03:48 PM   #45
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no, he was let go by muschamp. fact
If itís the same Jackie Easterby he was here 2005-2011, with the KC Chiefs in 2012, then has been with the Patriots ever since.

Are we talking different guys?
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:39 PM   #46
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You know whatís scary, clemson hasnít even signed a number 1 recruiting class yet
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Old 01-08-2019, 07:41 PM   #47
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At this rate, that's happening to everyone. They made the #1 and #3 teams in CFB look like a light stroll.

This is a really, really tough job right now. Not only do you have Clemson as an instate rival and national power, but Georgia is at the top of the SEC East (and also a national power) and Florida is getting better. Then, if you happen to surpass those teams in the right year, you still have to get past Alabama (another national power) to presumably go to the playoff.

We need a lot more than "character."
Character lol. Need a miracle when you consider all the things you stated.
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That is exactly right. They opened up the wallets and bought the best assistants that were available. This attracted the 5 star players, meanwhile some coaches were happy to have a few good walk-ons.

Please explain to me who the best assistants are that money can buy. Granted that Brent Venerables is a beast that has been paid but he earned that reputation at Klempson. Are you suggesting the Brad Scott's son and Tony Elliott are the best money can buy? They were complete nobodies that stayed on after Chad Morris left. They have done a good job - but prior to Klempson's success, they were unheard of.


Can you name any other assistant on the Klempson staff? Venerables is great but I hardly think they attracted and retained the best coaches.


Instead, they used guys loyal to the program who have done well. I think it actually shows that "big names" are not what is required. Said differently, a "big name" is not determinative of success. I actually think it is more about fit, loyalty, longevity and consistency. Those guys were given the chance to build a program. It took many years - and they now have a juggernaught.

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Old 01-08-2019, 08:08 PM   #49
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If itís the same Jackie Easterby he was here 2005-2011, with the KC Chiefs in 2012, then has been with the Patriots ever since.

Are we talking different guys?


Different guys. I think the poster is actually talking about the team chaplain, Adrian Despres. Left circa 2016.


Not sure his departure is the driver on the football program. FWIW, we haven't had a lot of discipline problems on our team under Boom. We also brought back Lattimore who is the best examples these men could have. Muschamp is extremely highly principled. So I don't think character is an issue.


Definitely agree we need more on-field leadership. Said that several times on CT this year. We need more field generals. Shaw had that in spades. Jake, unfortunately, has not show that.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:15 PM   #50
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no, he was let go by muschamp. fact
I think you’re thinking of the former director of football operations (Jamie S his name was?) He left on his own accord wasnt fired by muschamp. Correct me if I’m wrong. Him or Robbie lyles maybe? Idk
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The OP spelled “Bag men” wrong.
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