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Old 06-15-2017, 12:52 PM   #21
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I think we're a 7-5 team next year so I'd definitely take the over.
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I think we're a 7-5 team next year so I'd definitely take the over.
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Old 06-15-2017, 01:28 PM   #23
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The question is, how many of you are REALLY going to put money where your keyboard is?
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The question is, how many of you are REALLY going to put money where your keyboard is?
It seems every time I bet I lose, every time I predict but don't bet I'm right so I'll avoid betting just to not put the snake on us. That said Barton Simmons from 247 said we have a better chance of winning the East than missing a bowl so that would mean if he is right that's some safe money since a bowl game is 6 wins.
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It seems every time I bet I lose, every time I predict but don't bet I'm right so I'll avoid betting just to not put the snake on us. That said Barton Simmons from 247 said we have a better chance of winning the East than missing a bowl so that would mean if he is right that's some safe money since a bowl game is 6 wins.
Can you predict that we win the natty already then?
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I think 5.5 is the correct O/U. So, they aren't far off.

Our offense was improved under Bentley last season. (However, I wouldn't even rate it as above average.) It's like people have erased the terrible performance at Clemson out of their minds simply because we had a good second half against USF.

The defense has holes all over, and the oline is an issue.

Getting to a bowl game will be the goal again.

Those of you saying that we will win 8+ are probably the same people that thought Lorenzo Nunez was the "real deal".
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I think 5.5 is the correct O/U. So, they aren't far off.

Our offense was improved under Bentley last season. (However, I wouldn't even rate it as above average.) It's like people have erased the terrible performance at Clemson out of their minds simply because we had a good second half against USF.

The defense has holes all over, and the oline is an issue.

Getting to a bowl game will be the goal again.

Those of you saying that we will win 8+ are probably the same people that thought Lorenzo Nunez was the "real deal".
8 wins are far from guaranteed but not out of the question. My prediction is 7-5 with an 8th win at a bowl game.
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Our defense is key. All this talk about our offense is great and the recruiting news with Joyner adds to it, but I am a firm believer in Defense winning championships. For that, we need one or two more solid recruiting classes. Now maybe if we go to a NHHU, we can be like those Big 12 teams that squeeze out 8-10 wins a year.
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Old 06-20-2017, 09:26 AM   #31
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I think 5.5 is the correct O/U. So, they aren't far off.

Our offense was improved under Bentley last season. (However, I wouldn't even rate it as above average.) It's like people have erased the terrible performance at Clemson out of their minds simply because we had a good second half against USF.

The defense has holes all over, and the oline is an issue.

Getting to a bowl game will be the goal again.

Those of you saying that we will win 8+ are probably the same people that thought Lorenzo Nunez was the "real deal".
8-9 wins and I never thought that Nunez was the real deal. I do, however, think that Bentley is the real deal, which is why the O Line will be fine. They were last year - a lot of sacks were due to inexperience at QB, and the run blocking was good.

We were 4-2 in the regular season with Bentley and a healthy Rico/Deebo. With a full year of those guys, we will be in the upper half of the NCAA rankings on Offense - not great, but a major improvement. And - given the level of our competition - certainly above average.

We are actually pretty damn solid at LB and DB, so the only holes are on the D are on the Line. Even there we should be pretty decent at DT - Stallworth is basically a 3 year starter, Ulric Jones started a bunch of games, Kinlaw is big and athletic, Keir Thomas has shown potential, and we have some good young talent. So basically the "holes all over" comes down to DE, and even there the issue is the pass rush - guys like Dante Sawyer can play the run just fine.
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I think 5.5 is the correct O/U. So, they aren't far off.

Our offense was improved under Bentley last season. (However, I wouldn't even rate it as above average.) It's like people have erased the terrible performance at Clemson out of their minds simply because we had a good second half against USF.

The defense has holes all over, and the oline is an issue.

Getting to a bowl game will be the goal again.

Those of you saying that we will win 8+ are probably the same people that thought Lorenzo Nunez was the "real deal".
Agreed. The offense was atrocious for much of last year (yes we were young). We will be better, but you usually don't go from atrocious to great in 1 year. My prediction holds at 7-5. I'm hoping we can see some big strides on both sides of the ball. If things go our way, we could potentially open up 4-0 which could give us the momentum and confidence to carry this to an 8 win season as a near best-case scenario.
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8-9 wins and I never thought that Nunez was the real deal. I do, however, think that Bentley is the real deal, which is why the O Line will be fine. They were last year - a lot of sacks were due to inexperience at QB, and the run blocking was good.

We were 4-2 in the regular season with Bentley and a healthy Rico/Deebo. With a full year of those guys, we will be in the upper half of the NCAA rankings on Offense - not great, but a major improvement. And - given the level of our competition - certainly above average.

We are actually pretty damn solid at LB and DB, so the only holes are on the D are on the Line. Even there we should be pretty decent at DT - Stallworth is basically a 3 year starter, Ulric Jones started a bunch of games, Kinlaw is big and athletic, Keir Thomas has shown potential, and we have some good young talent. So basically the "holes all over" comes down to DE, and even there the issue is the pass rush - guys like Dante Sawyer can play the run just fine.
41 sacks given up (118th in the country) is not in any way "fine". We didn't even throw the ball that much.
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I firmly believe that with JB we would've beaten Miss St, Kentucky, and Georgia last year and won 9 games. But what happened happened, so I'm definitely taking the over on that.

Kentucky is toast this year. We will be playing for revenge from the last 3 years they beat us at Willy B. I expect to win 7 at least this year.
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It makes me nervous to see our fans hyping our finish as a big momentum builder. We basically played one good half to finish the season, and it was against an objectively awful defense--one of the worst in CFB.
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I firmly believe that with JB we would've beaten Miss St, Kentucky, and Georgia last year and won 9 games. But what happened happened, so I'm definitely taking the over on that.

Kentucky is toast this year. We will be playing for revenge from the last 3 years they beat us at Willy B. I expect to win 7 at least this year.
An occasional upset happens (i.e. once every +/-10 years), but three straight losses to UK is unacceptable. Muschamp knows that, and this time around he has more of what he wants in place. The losing streak ends this year.
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41 sacks given up (118th in the country) is not in any way "fine". We didn't even throw the ball that much.
They were fine. Because you cannot tell me :
  • How many sacks were the fault of the Quarterback for holding on to the ball too long, for not reading the defense correctly and checking to a different play, or hitting the hot route, or adjusting the blocking scheme.
  • How many were the fault of the WRs for not getting open or running the wrong route.
  • How many were the fault of the TE and/or RB for not picking up the unblocked rusher, or whiffing on a block, or not staying in protection when they were supposed to.

If you could tell me, you would realize that our pass blocking was fine, especially in the second half of the season when we adjusted the O Line and the guys stayed reasonably healthy. We have a better O Line than, say, Clemson, but they had veteran skill guys and an Offense designed to get the pass out quick. We had extremely young skill guys and an offense that requires the QB to go through progressions. Big difference.

As far as our "atrocious" Offense - we averaged 26.6 points per game after Bentley came in and we got Deebo/Rico in the mix. Not great, but certainly not "atrocious".
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We can beat NC State, Mizzou, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Louisiana Tech, Arkansas, and Wofford. So they must think we lose 2 of those.
I don't know if we will beat NC State or Arky. And Kentucky has beaten us 3 straight.
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This is just from one sports book but the over/under for wins they have set for 2017 is as follows:

SC: 5
Clemson 9.5
Georgia: 9


They have us as the lowest projected win total in the SEC, along with Miss St.

Thoughts?

http://www.cbssports.com/college-foo...130-fbs-teams/
If I was a betting man, I'd definitely take the over on us and Georgia. Probably Clemson too.
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