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Old 06-06-2017, 01:05 PM   #41
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He wasn't commited. We can't win with his kinda attitude. No one needs to be at Carolina without total thoughts of all out sacrifice e
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Old 06-06-2017, 02:06 PM   #42
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I would love for him to play for AR when we play them this year. I have been worried about that game.
Are you kidding? That will probably be the ONE time he runs for 250yd in a game in WB! LOL!
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Old 06-06-2017, 03:11 PM   #44
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I would say this a Kenny Irons situation, but................... Irons was pretty much given the 3rd degree once Meat got on campus. Williams had every opportunity to be a contributor the day he stepped foot on campus and either thru attitude or work ethic was buried behind guys like Carson (no offense to Carson he definitely wanted to be on the field/contribute, outside of speed he lacked a lot traits you want in every down sec back) who most thought he had more talent then. If arky wants him Great! I really don't see this guy being more than extra body two take maybe 5 carries a game as relief for your workhorse back.

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Old 06-06-2017, 03:19 PM   #45
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Doesn't like contact. Falls down far too easily. Looks the part though.
I have always thought that he just didn't have the vision and balance really good backs possess.

I wish him the best.
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Are you kidding? That will probably be the ONE time he runs for 250yd in a game in WB! LOL!
No chance. I remember Bobby Bentley saying last summer that Williams has zero downfield vision. Dude just runs into his OL and falls down.
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Bentley's exact words were: "I wondered if he was running with his eyes closed" ...yeah I wondered the same thing actually, I was very hopeful that D. Williams would be the next Mike Davis or at least realize his potential. I was really surprised he didn't have a better career at Carolina.
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Old 06-06-2017, 03:46 PM   #48
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No chance. I remember Bobby Bentley saying last summer that Williams has zero downfield vision. Dude just runs into his OL and falls down.
There are some great athletes that just aren't good football players. This is why some guys quit or never live up to other's expectations.
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Doesn't like contact. Falls down far too easily. Looks the part though.
You have obviously never watched him block. It never clicked for DW at USC, for whatever reason. Football like life can be a mental thing. He has all the tools and if he got the opportunity and confidence he could be a good player. Wish him well
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You have obviously never watched him block. It never clicked for DW at USC, for whatever reason. Football like life can be a mental thing. He has all the tools and if he got the opportunity and confidence he could be a good player. Wish him well
you nailed it he destroyed some bigger guys picking up blitzes and blocking, I remember thinking when he ran it looked like he was just so jacked up at the chance to run the ball like he was overloaded with adrenaline that he didnt see the holes.
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Old 06-06-2017, 05:25 PM   #51
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I think he is like some of the higher rated QBs that have size and cannons for an arm, but just don't have the aptitude to play the position. Williams has the size and speed to play, but not the instincts and vision.

There is more to football than looking good when you walk off the bus.
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Old 06-06-2017, 11:33 PM   #52
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My take on Williams's runs was that he didn't rely on his speed when he needed to and didn't finish runs with a good lean or angle. He seemed to be a fast guy who ran too straight up to make yards after contact. I hope he does well wherever he goes.
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:54 PM   #53
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He seemed to be a fast guy who ran too straight up to make yards after contact.
I'm not sure running straight up was necessarily his major problem, Eric Dickerson ran straight up and did fine.

Might be part of his problem was the zone read offense and the blocking schemes. It's hard to run the ZR without a ZR QB, and the zone blocking meant holes start to open just as you're getting the ball. Factor in his lack of vision, it's likely why he struggled. Then take his attitude, he thought he'd be a starter by default.

The guy is big and athletic, Bentley thought he had a diamond when he first saw him. He was a pretty darn good blocker, physicality wasn't his problem.

He might thrive going to an I Formation offense, I can't remember what his HS team ran, but he might do better in Arkie's offensive scheme.
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No chance. I remember Bobby Bentley saying last summer that Williams has zero downfield vision. Dude just runs into his OL and falls down.
You must not have been a Gamecock fan very long or know much about Gamecock luck!! LOL!! j/k!
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:40 PM   #55
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Good for him, he got his degree and he'll have a shot at being the #1 back at UConn, finish his eligibility STARTING cant blame him for wanting that!
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:26 PM   #56
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I'm not sure running straight up was necessarily his major problem, Eric Dickerson ran straight up and did fine.

Might be part of his problem was the zone read offense and the blocking schemes. It's hard to run the ZR without a ZR QB, and the zone blocking meant holes start to open just as you're getting the ball. Factor in his lack of vision, it's likely why he struggled. Then take his attitude, he thought he'd be a starter by default.

The guy is big and athletic, Bentley thought he had a diamond when he first saw him. He was a pretty darn good blocker, physicality wasn't his problem.

He might thrive going to an I Formation offense, I can't remember what his HS team ran, but he might do better in Arkie's offensive scheme.
Early on, I was thinking and posted that Pistol might be the best bet for him. The I might do as well.
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Old 06-10-2017, 01:46 AM   #57
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You have obviously never watched him block. It never clicked for DW at USC, for whatever reason. Football like life can be a mental thing. He has all the tools and if he got the opportunity and confidence he could be a good player. Wish him well
he had all the opportunity in the world coming into Carolina. as someone said earlier, he lacked vision and balance, and had zero patience wanting for his blocks to develop in front of him. I never remember him making a tackler miss. he had a ton of speed and size. younger guys came in and passed him on the depth chart.
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Mcilwain and Williams seem similar in that they did not make the most of on field opportunities. Williams stuck it out though, don't blame him for transferring to somewhere where he has an opportunity to go out on a good note. That isn't here though...
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http://www.thestate.com/sports/colle...156701774.html

Welp.

Watch him look like a Heisman candidate against us, then become irrelevant.

(Yes, it's a State article, but it's the one that came up on Facebook)
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Welp.

Watch him look like a Heisman candidate against us, then become irrelevant.

(Yes, it's a State article, but it's the one that came up on Facebook)
Haha he ain't that good.
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