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Old 05-20-2017, 01:53 PM   #1
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Default Lindy's and Athlon's are out. Major disrespect for Gamecocks.

I looked through both. Bentley wasn't in the top 25 qbs in the country in one section. One mag listed the top 8 qbs in the SEC, and Bently wasn't listed. One of the mag's noted that if things go well for us, we could crack the top 40. Also, one of the comments from an opposing coach said that our recruiting on the OL and DB was horrible and was like what Wake Forest would have. Ok, I actually agree with that part. Our RB ranking in the SEC was really low too. No respect for the trio of Dowdle, Turner and Williams.
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Old 05-20-2017, 06:26 PM   #2
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Default Re: Lindy's and Athlon's are out. Major disrespect for Gamecocks.

Athlon's and Lindy's are pretty bad, they just go with the previous year's results and shift the teams around a few spots. Plus they are published on slick paper and are not even good to use if you run out of TP.

I think we will fare better with Phil Steele, who actually does a little research and scratches below the surface a little. He will give some props to Bentley and the RBs. I also think he will pick a win total above the 5.5 number from Vegas.
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Default Re: Lindy's and Athlon's are out. Major disrespect for Gamecocks.

Noticed both of them were in stores this week, but didn't look. Not surprising that they didn't have high hopes for the Gamecocks. I'll wait for Phil Steele, as he does extensive research on all teams, and is usually pretty close at getting it right.
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I looked through both. Bentley wasn't in the top 25 qbs in the country in one section. One mag listed the top 8 qbs in the SEC, and Bently wasn't listed. One of the mag's noted that if things go well for us, we could crack the top 40. Also, one of the comments from an opposing coach said that our recruiting on the OL and DB was horrible and was like what Wake Forest would have. Ok, I actually agree with that part. Our RB ranking in the SEC was really low too. No respect for the trio of Dowdle, Turner and Williams.

Also ranks our DL dead last 14th in SEC. SC is a state known for top notch DL talent. How USC went from top 3 in SEC on DL to...dead last...is why we're struggling.
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Also ranks our DL dead last 14th in SEC. SC is a state known for top notch DL talent. How USC went from top 3 in SEC on DL to...dead last...is why we're struggling.
Luckily we have just the coaches to fix that. Some wins this season will help as well.
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Old 05-20-2017, 09:28 PM   #6
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Default Re: Lindy's and Athlon's are out. Major disrespect for Gamecocks.

Our team hit pretty close to rock bottom in most areas during 2015. Our QB situation was a cluster. So bad we had to start freshmen and walk out no. that didn't work so Bentley who could have still beenin High School had to come off the bench to help. He ended up winning the starting spot. Bentley was only QB for half the season. The worse part is the QB isn't the only position like that. Our team is still coming back together and has a lot more winning to do before we rank well in polls. We aren't like Notre Dame or Ohio State where we are automatically get ranked in the top 10 even when we are horrible.
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Default Re: Lindy's and Athlon's are out. Major disrespect for Gamecocks.

They are always pretty much, prove it. And they're right more than they're wrong.They probably don't spend 5 minutes per team.
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I looked through both. Bentley wasn't in the top 25 qbs in the country in one section. One mag listed the top 8 qbs in the SEC, and Bently wasn't listed. One of the mag's noted that if things go well for us, we could crack the top 40. Also, one of the comments from an opposing coach said that our recruiting on the OL and DB was horrible and was like what Wake Forest would have. Ok, I actually agree with that part. Our RB ranking in the SEC was really low too. No respect for the trio of Dowdle, Turner and Williams.
Based on the reference to Wake Forest it would be my guess that comment was by Dabo Swinney.
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I looked through both. Bentley wasn't in the top 25 qbs in the country in one section. One mag listed the top 8 qbs in the SEC, and Bently wasn't listed. One of the mag's noted that if things go well for us, we could crack the top 40. Also, one of the comments from an opposing coach said that our recruiting on the OL and DB was horrible and was like what Wake Forest would have. Ok, I actually agree with that part. Our RB ranking in the SEC was really low too. No respect for the trio of Dowdle, Turner and Williams.
I don't see anything too egregious here. They need to go out and prove them wrong on the field.
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I don't see anything too egregious here. They need to go out and prove them wrong on the field.
I agree. I don't really think it is disrespect. It's just how they see it. I don't agree with them but I don't necessarily think they look at specific teams and disparage them. They just don't think highly of the team. Winning more will fix that.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:00 AM   #11
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This is our year for respect and it will be dealt out in bunches.
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Old 05-23-2017, 11:16 AM   #12
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Default Re: Lindy's and Athlon's are out. Major disrespect for Gamecocks.

These magazines are basically opinion pieces.


And we all know about opinions...
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Default Re: Lindy's and Athlon's are out. Major disrespect for Gamecocks.

Most of these so called experts that draw up magazines or have web sites have steadly become total crap. Not many of them know a dang thing about football or other college sports. Case in point, Jake Bentz. If you had watched one game last year where we played decent you would realize that Bentz is by far the best QB in the SEC in 2017.
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I looked through both. Bentley wasn't in the top 25 qbs in the country in one section. One mag listed the top 8 qbs in the SEC, and Bently wasn't listed. One of the mag's noted that if things go well for us, we could crack the top 40. Also, one of the comments from an opposing coach said that our recruiting on the OL and DB was horrible and was like what Wake Forest would have. Ok, I actually agree with that part. Our RB ranking in the SEC was really low too. No respect for the trio of Dowdle, Turner and Williams.
I hope this is a great year offensively, but I still don't get where everyone is so convinced we're going to be an offensive power. We had flashes, but there was a whole lot that looked ugly, too.

And I know the schedule got tougher, and some people hate stats, but in October USC was 8th in the SEC in passing and 12th in November; Rushing we were dead last in October and 10th in November. We ended the season last by a country mile versus conference in rushing and eighth in passing.

I want to believe, but I feel like people are hanging so much hope on a meaningless bowl game. I hope Bentley comes out and lights it up, but I also don't blame anyone outside of fringe fans for doubting this team right now.
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Default Re: Lindy's and Athlon's are out. Major disrespect for Gamecocks.

I love things like this. The same people telling you it's a miracle if the team wins 6 games will then get mad when the "experts" predict the same thing. People will hang onto the coach proclaiming the team is two recruiting classes away from having quality players and depth but then get mad when the "experts" knock the caliber of athletes on the team. They aren't saying anything that many other people have said on this board.

In terms of Bentley maybe his ranking in the SEC is a little low but it's a results oriented business and how he performs against the top teams is way more important than how he performs against the bottom ones. If he's given the ability to make adjustments and play calling improves he'll climb the list.
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I think we end up with about the same record as last year, maybe one more upset win. If the offense improves drastically, or the defense plays above average you never know.
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I think we end up with about the same record as last year, maybe one more upset win. If the offense improves drastically, or the defense plays above average you never know.
..Yup, it has been stated 100 plus times this off season that if the Oline can block a little, we have the horses at offensive skill positions to out score a few teams.
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..Yup, it has been stated 100 plus times this off season that if the Oline can block a little, we have the horses at offensive skill positions to out score a few teams.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I can of feel like our chance to improve this season is hinging more on the defense progression through the year and less on the offensive line. I feel like the growth potential during a season is higher for positions like the CB and safety and less for offensive line.

Basically, offensively we may improve, but the money this season is going to be in the secondary and defensive line. A few surprise players and we're at 7-8 wins.
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Basically, offensively we may improve, but the money this season is going to be in the secondary and defensive line. A few surprise players and we're at 7-8 wins.
The DLine looked atrocious in Spring game. No pass rush, can't shrink the gap, just bad all-around. They better get better, or teams are just gonna run at us, then get favorable matchups outside as we have to pack the box every down.

Unless something dramatic happens there, we're going to have to put up a lot of points to get to a bowl.
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Default Re: Lindy's and Athlon's are out. Major disrespect for Gamecocks.

We stunk last year. Our best win came against a free-falling Tennessee team. Other than that, we beat terrible teams.

6 wins against teams with a combined record of 26-47.
7 losses against teams with a combined record of 63-30.

If you were an objective college football writer, why would you put this team on a pedestal?
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