AMC brings 'Walking Dead' to life

[2000grad]

Originally Posted by FloydTheBarber

Carl continues to lose his humanity, Rick struggles to keep it together. Carl continues to doubt the direction Rock is taking the group, blaming him for those they lose along the way. Eventually, Carl sees a decision Rick makes (or is about to make) that could jeopardize the safety of the group (and, more specifically, Judith) so Carl kills Rick.

Enter Governor 2.0...Carl Grimes.

I think Karl Childers would be a good governor

[bertoholic]

the finale was slightly disappointing. very little closure. some people are looking for this show to be an all out kill or be killed action show every episode, but this show is a drama about survival in a zombie infested world with no infrastructure. there are going to be slow times and episodes that leave a lot to be desired because you have to build the plot. The survivors are in a mode right now where they are trying to settle and have some peace in the world. I do hope they end the prison story line soon and move on with the plot of the books.

[bryarx]

Originally Posted by bertoholic

the finale was slightly disappointing. very little closure. some people are looking for this show to be an all out kill or be killed action show every episode, but this show is a drama about survival in a zombie infested world with no infrastructure. there are going to be slow times and episodes that leave a lot to be desired because you have to build the plot. The survivors are in a mode right now where they are trying to settle and have some peace in the world. I do hope they end the prison story line soon and move on with the plot of the books.

Yea, but that's no excuse not to have a decent finale.

[bertoholic]

Originally Posted by bryarx

Yea, but that's no excuse not to have a decent finale.

agreed. the thing is they said there wouldn't be a cliffhanger ending this season. i guess that's true, but still......

[TheMule]

[Regalcock]

Originally Posted by TheMule

[Spurrier_Superior_One]

Who voted this as a bad thread this was a 5* thread, find out and ban them.

[GamecockNeal]

Originally Posted by Spurrier_Superior_One

Who voted this as a bad thread this was a 5* thread, find out and ban them.

Scroll through a bit and find the ass who constantly moans about the show. I bet we will have our answer.

[Spurrier_Superior_One]

Originally Posted by GamecockNeal

Scroll through a bit and find the ass who constantly moans about the show. I bet we will have our answer.

I figured that was him.

[Order 66]

That's limp

[Spurrier_Superior_One]

[johnnyb]

Originally Posted by CocksfanNC

He shot a scared teenager when he didn't have to. That's not a man; it's a punk.

new world, strict adherence to the old "rules" will get you killed fast here...if kid had dropped his weapon straight off, he would have likely lived...he hung onto it and died because of it

Originally Posted by bryarx

Rick and the rest grew up the majority of their lives living in society. Maybe Carl being short sighted to the old world and having more proportional time in post-zombie apocalypse is more easily adaptable in surviving. His logic, while cold, did make sense.

kids adapt to changes faster than adults, Carl has realized what I stated above, they all have to an extent, however realization and actually changing your mentality to survive with the new "rules" takes much longer for a NORMAL adult to do

Originally Posted by GamecockRocker

Wow, so you acknowledge that his behavior was due to a lack of a moral compass and indicates a developing sociopath

not a lack of a moral compass imo, but a swing in the direction of said compass...survival is 1st priority now, anything that directly (and in this case immediatly) threatens that survival has to be handled in the most expedient way possible...

Originally Posted by FloydTheBarber

Carl shouldnt have killed the kid. I thought this was exemplified when, later, Rick benefited from having NOT killed the women who survived the Governor's massacre. Had Rick simply killed her (as Carl obviously would have done in that situation) then its a pretty good likelihood Tyreese and Sasha would have opened fire on them.

Bottom line is- Carl should have captured the kid, and they could have gotten good intel out of him.

Was the woman armed? I honestly dont remember, but I didnt think she was. If the kid had been running thru the woods unarmed and ran across carl and the crowd I think he lives, one way or another.

Originally Posted by Acockolypse Now

Yeah, as ambushes go, Rick's group was pretty bad. Once they had them trapped inside they should have just closed the doors, and shot them up through holes in the door.

As is was, if the Woodbury crew had realized that they were only getting shot out outside (where they had room to maneuver and cover) by two people, they could have re-engaged and ran them over.

The Governor was equally stupid for committing all his forces inside the corridors.

The Governors army was primarily "civillians" who had been handed a gun and told "point it like this and pull this"...they werent trained or battle hardened...time they ran up against resistance thier first instinct was to run

Originally Posted by catdaddy66

Agreed! If some firecrackers and smoke can chase them outside and 2 people (Glenn and Maggie) in riot gear can chase 20 people with high powered rifles away like they did, that isn't a very effective "army"!!

I guess they weren't "all in"! The Governor ain't no Abo!

see above

Originally Posted by FloydTheBarber

Carl continues to lose his humanity, Rick struggles to keep it together. Carl continues to doubt the direction Rock is taking the group, blaming him for those they lose along the way. Eventually, Carl sees a decision Rick makes (or is about to make) that could jeopardize the safety of the group (and, more specifically, Judith) so Carl kills Rick.

Enter Governor 2.0...Carl Grimes.

i could see something similar to this

[FloydTheBarber]

Originally Posted by johnnyb

Was the woman armed? I honestly dont remember, but I didnt think she was. If the kid had been running thru the woods unarmed and ran across carl and the crowd I think he lives, one way or another.

Why wouldnt she be? The governor killed nearly everyone from his 'army', all of whom had weapons- but the governor nor his surviving men bothered to take any of the dead's weapons...

I would assume the lone survivor would have taken at least one weapon into the cab of the truck with her. I mean, it IS the zombie apocalypse, after all...

[RudeCock]

Carl killed the kid because he knew if he was allowed in the prison family, the kid would hook up with Beth and he would be left out in the cold.

[robgusc76]

Originally Posted by RudeCock

Carl killed the kid because he knew if he was allowed in the prison family, the kid would hook up with Beth and he would be left out in the cold.

WINNER

[johnnyb]

Originally Posted by FloydTheBarber

Why wouldnt she be? The governor killed nearly everyone from his 'army', all of whom had weapons- but the governor nor his surviving men bothered to take any of the dead's weapons...

I would assume the lone survivor would have taken at least one weapon into the cab of the truck with her. I mean, it IS the zombie apocalypse, after all...

you would assume, however I just went back and rewatched this scene, she never had a visible weapon, and her hands were "in the air" the whole time she was visible to them, time she popped up in the truck her hands were up on the inside of the window, daryl opened the door for her to get out while rick kept her "covered" with the revolver...gotta remember, she was one of the "citizens" of woodbury, not one of the soldiers there...I dont remember how long they had been staying in woodbury, but you would think for an adult it would be easy for them to fall back into the relaxed atmosphere of "civilization" and lose the survivor mentality of being armed at all times

Originally Posted by RudeCock

Carl killed the kid because he knew if he was allowed in the prison family, the kid would hook up with Beth and he would be left out in the cold.

exactly, hes just worried about the survival of the species...and him getting the drop on the kid obviously means he is better equipped for survival in teotwawki times!

[Acockolypse Now]

I love how Rick is all upset about Carl shooting the kid, but he had no problem abandoning the poor backpacking bastard several episodes back. Rick had multiple opportunities to save the guy, but he left him every time, and then took his backpack.

What the hell you think you've been teaching him Rick?!

[CocksfanNC]

Originally Posted by Acockolypse Now

I love how Rick is all upset about Carl shooting the kid, but he had no problem abandoning the poor backpacking bastard several episodes back. Rick had multiple opportunities to save the guy, but he left him every time, and then took his backpack.

What the hell you think you've been teaching him Rick?!

[CocksfanNC]

This is not Walking Dead, but it's a short film based on zombies, so I thought some here might enjoy it. Also, I don't want to cry alone.

http://io9.com/a-zombie-bitten-fathe...ghte-471057417

[TheMule]

Four part webisode if you need a summer fix.

http://www.amctv.com/the-walking-dea...he-chosen-ones