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Old 06-28-2018, 09:21 AM   #1
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of course "he didn't do it" says victim who told police he did it. i'm all for due process, but if guilty he should be off the team.
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of course "he didn't do it" says victim who told police he did it. i'm all for due process, but if guilty he should be off the team.
I agree 100%. He is already suspended pending the findings of the investigation.
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The girl friend put out on Twitter the same day it happened that he didn't do it, and that he has never mistreated her. Of course, it could have been anyone pretending to be her.
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If it never happened... why was it reported? Spite?
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Old 06-28-2018, 11:28 AM   #6
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Regardless of the outcome, this ends a long streak of players being accountable to the culture the team has developed for off-field behavior. They've been involved in community service, won citizenship awards, raised graduation rates and done well in academic measures. This is one reason coaches hate the off-season. He's suspended, and I think the team is ready to move on without him. I hope he comes out OK and learns what he needs from this. It doesn't look good, and I think Muschamp will be highly intolerant for the good of the team.
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First, thank you to all the people that worked so hard to get CockyTalk back on line. As for Charleston, if he abused a woman, then he should be gone.
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Regardless of the outcome, this ends a long streak of players being accountable to the culture the team has developed for off-field behavior. They've been involved in community service, won citizenship awards, raised graduation rates and done well in academic measures. This is one reason coaches hate the off-season. He's suspended, and I think the team is ready to move on without him. I hope he comes out OK and learns what he needs from this. It doesn't look good, and I think Muschamp will be highly intolerant for the good of the team.
Well if it turns out to no be true, then it doesn't change anything. Remember Skai and another player were arrested for a bar fight that once it came out they just tried to break up.

From how I read this story, he walked in on a man with his current or former girl in the bed. That's going to fire any man up. Whatever happened after that is what the issue is. It could have been the guy that said he did these things to her if she (assuming it's the real person) has already said it's not true.
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Anyone else feeling a little guilty over the relief they felt when they confused Javon Kinlaw with Javon Charleston for a half a second and then realized the error? hah!
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Old 06-29-2018, 04:45 PM   #10
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Regardless of the outcome, this ends a long streak of players being accountable to the culture the team has developed for off-field behavior. They've been involved in community service, won citizenship awards, raised graduation rates and done well in academic measures. This is one reason coaches hate the off-season. He's suspended, and I think the team is ready to move on without him. I hope he comes out OK and learns what he needs from this. It doesn't look good, and I think Muschamp will be highly intolerant for the good of the team.
As well he should. Coach Muschamp, like Spurrier before him, has stated that he does not tolerate players who abuse women.
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If they girl didn't just make up the initial report, he should obviously be gone. But maybe she did, idk.



From a practical perspective, this makes the DB depth thinner, and this was already a problem.
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Ah man these type of things are tough to gauge. A young man who likely loved the girl and she did him wrong. Sounds like he went into a rage. It can be extremely hard to keep composure in that situation. It’s a teaching moment for him. I’m sure he’s a good kid and hope he’s able to remain on the team. I hope in the future the program can conduct some sort of life skills class on how to react to situations like this if they arise.

On the other hand there are some extremely malicious jealous men who’ll do anything to steal your girl. We must wait for the facts. It very well could’ve been this guy who reported that to police, especially since the girlfriend says he has never mistreated her. Or it could’ve happened and the girl just feels guilty for doing him wrong, and knows how detrimental this could be for him. As we know he was just put on scholarship, and this would force him to go back to paying for school out of pocket.

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From how I read this story, he walked in on a man with his current or former girl in the bed. That's going to fire any man up. Whatever happened after that is what the issue is. It could have been the guy that said he did these things to her if she (assuming it's the real person) has already said it's not true.
He broke down the front door.

He didn't walk in on anyone.
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Ah man these type of things are tough to gauge. A young man who likely loved the girl and she did him wrong. Sounds like he went into a rage. It can be extremely hard to keep composure in that situation. It’s a teaching moment for him. I’m sure he’s a good kid and hope he’s able to remain on the team. I hope in the future the program can conduct some sort of life skills class on how to react to situations like this if they arise.

On the other hand there are some extremely malicious jealous men who’ll do anything to steal your girl. We must wait for the facts. It very well could’ve been this guy who reported that to police, especially since the girlfriend says he has never mistreated her. Or it could’ve happened and the girl just feels guilty for doing him wrong, and knows how detrimental this could be for him. As we know he was just put on scholarship, and this would force him to go back to paying for school out of pocket.


Men have been doing stupid stuff because of women since the dawn of time. Unfortunately, this act of stupidity could cost Mr. Charleston big time.
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If they girl didn't just make up the initial report, he should obviously be gone. But maybe she did, idk.



From a practical perspective, this makes the DB depth thinner, and this was already a problem.
She later tweeted it wasn’t true about him doing all that.
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You guys need to ctfo. Nobody knows what happened at all, so nobody wants to hear anyone voice their opinion about how badly you think he should be kicked off the team if found guilty. We know 0 details.
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I hope he didn’t do anything illegal, I hope he did not abuse the girl. I hope we can get him back. He worked so hard to get where he is, there are plenty of other women out there, she is probably not worth it.
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My impression here (I know no inside info) is that if there are no objections from the girl or her family *and* he is still the best use of a scholarship, he should be reinstated with a two game suspension or something...

Everyone makes dumb decisions when they are young, no need to punish a young man excessively when you got Jameis Winston as an example running around out there.

However, he might not be the best use of a scholarship... and if so, this is all on him.
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My impression here (I know no inside info) is that if there are no objections from the girl or her family *and* he is still the best use of a scholarship, he should be reinstated with a two game suspension or something...

Everyone makes dumb decisions when they are young, no need to punish a young man excessively when you got Jameis Winston as an example running around out there.

However, he might not be the best use of a scholarship... and if so, this is all on him.
We haven't really heard much other than from when it happened and when the woman said she wanted to drop the charges. It's hard to predict what will happen with little information, but my guess is that they - at the very least - revoke his scholarship.
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