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Old 06-17-2017, 05:36 PM   #1
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Default U.S. Navy Destroyer crashes, 7 unaccounted for

The U.S.S Fitzgerald DDG 62 was struck by a tanker ship in Japan earlier. The ship sustained flooding in multiple compartments, and there are still 7 unaccounted for, guessing they were sealed into the flooded compartments.

I would not be surprised to see that the Skipper, CIC , Bridge Watch Officer, and the watch standers will all face court marshal.

Prayers going out for the missing.

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Good Lord.................was no one manning the radar?
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Good Lord.................was no one manning the radar?
That's why I said, heads will roll for this.
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How far away would radar normally pick up another ship?
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How far away would radar normally pick up another ship?
Not really sure what the actual range is, but suffice it to say, this was a big mistake. No reason they should not have known that there was a gigantic freighter heading towards them.
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We are floating warships that can be sunk by a freaking freighter?
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We are floating warships that can be sunk by a freaking freighter?
To be fair, it didn't sink, and could still maintain the fight if needed, but yeah, not really sure how that happened.
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How far away would radar normally pick up another ship?
If they had the Aegis operational, a long way. Even the freighter should have had a basic radar to warn them.

Sad. God comfort the families and friends of those we lost.
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If they had the Aegis operational, a long way. Even the freighter should have had a basic radar to warn them.

Sad. God comfort the families and friends of those we lost.
This particular DDG was equiped with Ageis.
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We even had decent radar back in the 80s when I would sail back to the states from Jamaica.
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We are floating warships that can be sunk by a freaking freighter?
All modern warships have no armor to speak of since no matter the amount of armor you could equip it with it wold still not be enough to stop modern anti shipping weapons. They rely on a layered active defense of standard missiles, sea sparrow missiles and as a final layer of defense CIWS. They also used several different types of decoys that try to confuse the missiles.
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To be fair, it didn't sink, and could still maintain the fight if needed, but yeah, not really sure how that happened.
It was dead in the water and there was no way it could have done anything. It had lost all power and its mk41 VLS was warped to all hell and back.

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This particular DDG was equiped with Ageis.
All US Navy Arleigh Burke class destroyers are equipped with Ageis as well as the Ticonderoga class Cruisers. The SPY-1D(V) array on that ship is totally wrecked. I would not be surprised since this is a older flight I ship that they just decide to not fix this ship and use it as a parts hulk for the rest of the flight I burkes.
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All modern warships have no armor to speak of since no matter the amount of armor you could equip it with it wold still not be enough to stop modern anti shipping weapons. They rely on a layered active defense of standard missiles, sea sparrow missiles and as a final layer of defense CIWS. They also used several different types of decoys that try to confuse the missiles.

It was dead in the water and there was no way it could have done anything. It had lost all power and its mk41 VLS was warped to all hell and back.


All US Navy Arleigh Burke class destroyers are equipped with Ageis as well as the Ticonderoga class Cruisers. The SPY-1D(V) array on that ship is totally wrecked. I would not be surprised since this is a older flight I ship that they just decide to not fix this ship and use it as a parts hulk for the rest of the flight I burkes.

They just retrofitted it, knowing the Navy, it will sail for another 30 years lol.
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The U.S.S Fitzgerald DDG 62 was struck by a tanker ship in Japan earlier. The ship sustained flooding in multiple compartments, and there are still 7 unaccounted for, guessing they were sealed into the flooded compartments.

I would not be surprised to see that the Skipper, CIC , Bridge Watch Officer, and the watch standers will all face court marshal.

Prayers going out for the missing.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=48092522
I agree completely on the courts Marshal. Gross negligence, embarrassing, millions of dollars in repairs and search and rescue and Missy important of all, the sailors hurt, missing and killed.
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All US Navy Arleigh Burke class destroyers are equipped with Ageis....
Which screams the question why wasn't it on or working? They also have some other radars on that ship.
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Which screams the question why wasn't it on or working? They also have some other radars on that ship.
Aegis is not a system that is always on. They were in no danger of air attack and running that system consumes massive amounts of power and they have a shelf life of so many hours before they have to be overhauled. You are right that they have several secondary radars for navigation that should have spotted this ship miles away. This almost has to be due to human error and negligence. I just read where the 7 missing sailors were all found dead in the flooded compartments of the ship.
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This isn't even about whether or not the radar was on...of course it was...or what kind of radar system it may be. When at sea every contact is being watched and tracked. There is a constant watch group...fore and aft..port and starboard...communicating with the bridge...as well as the operations group...CIC...communicating with the watch and bridge...operations specialist and radarmen...identifying, naming, tracking and communication all of this on a continuous basis...they are referred to as 'Combat'

Meaning they are 'Combat' on the headphones and anytime a new contact appears or an existing one moves they are on the line saying so...'Combat to Bridge'...'Combat to Starboard watch'...etc...sometimes literally asking...do you see something at 3 o'clock. Or the watch asking...'Starboard watch to Combat'...do you see what I see. There is someone on the bridge literally tracking and updating these contacts as they move and as you move...they've been named and their location made crystal clear.

How this could happen is a complete mystery to me...this CO is done...career over.
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First the big search for that one guy who was hiding in the engine room the whole time, and now this. At least there should be some promotion opportunities coming up soon.
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Just reading they recovered the 7 sailors, drowned in their bearthing, which was on of the sealed compartments. Waiting on the names to be released.



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RIP to the seven dead. How does this even happen with today's technology?
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Just reading they recovered the 7 sailors, drowned in their bearthing, which was on of the sealed compartments. Waiting on the names to be released.



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